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Conference nyoss1::market_investing

Title:Market Investing
Moderator:2155::michaud
Created:Thu Jan 23 1992
Last Modified:Thu Jun 05 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1060
Total number of notes:10477

641.0. "Gateway Stocks: Need help..." by SALEM::SHAH_J () Fri Dec 17 1993 16:03

    
    
    	Gateway (a PC manufacturer) recently went public and the
    stock did well in a short while.
    
    	I would like to sell some Digital stocks and buy Gateway.
    
    	Any comments?  
    
        I have lost a lot of money in my DEC stock so far.  Need
    some help....  Thanks.
    
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641.1mutual fund?ZENDIA::FERGUSONRed XFri Dec 17 1993 16:236
Depends on what your investment objectives are.  If your experience is
limited to just ESPP, then you may want to read a bit about mutual funds
and get yourself into one vs. just going out and buying yet another
technology stock.


641.2MSBCS::BROWN_LFri Dec 17 1993 20:204
    Gateway did "well in a short while" the day it became public (at 16
    and change).  Since then it's dribbled down from 19ish to 17ish.
    It does have one of the lowest P/E's in the industry though (@10,
    even beating COMPAQ).  kb
641.3Gateway doesn't seem to be moving fast enough....SPECXN::KANNANMon Dec 20 1993 13:3218
   PC mail-order stores like Gateway are essentially doing business on
   razor-thin margins. These last only for a very little while. Also, a
   lot is riding on the CEO and President's committment to where they want the
   company headed. They've after all, may have gotten a huge check for their 
   efforts so far when they went public. Now what?

   A good indicator is how they position themselves after the initial success
   and which markets they want to go after and whether they can succeed there.
   Dell is a good example of somebody who's thinking five, ten years ahead.
   If you've noticed recently they've diversified into business, education
   and server markets. They are making big headways in addressing service
   needs of mostly business customers.

   I don't see Gateway doing these kinds of things as strongly as Dell.
   I would buy my PC from Gateway but would not invest in it!

   Nari
641.4NOT A SURE SHOT INVESTMENTPOBOX::PATELMon Dec 20 1993 16:538
    I agree with .3.  Stay away from the "Highly Competitive" PC market
    place where you have the next upcoming vendor beat the current "King".  
    Compaq beat IBM, Dell beat Compaq, Gateway is beating Dell etc etc etc. 
    The sequence above is only for illustration purpose (it is more complex
    than that and many more names in between). 
    
    KP
     
641.5Impending Price War???ODIXIE::GELINEAUMon Jan 03 1994 21:388
    CNBC recently had an analyst that said the good news has already
    happened with the IPO, and that further gains will require profits
    which could be questionable if the expected Pentium repricing drives
    another price war.
    
    I'm agressive and it's not for me!
    
    Rgds,
641.6was 2:1; now 1.25:1MSBCS::BROWN_LMon Jan 31 1994 18:593
    re .0  Good call; GATE has gone up as much as DEC has gone down.
    DEC was @36 and GATE was 18 when .0 was entered.  Now, DEC is @30
    and GATE is above 24.  
641.7higher earningsBROKE::SHAHAmitabh "Amend Constitution: ban DECAF"Tue Feb 01 1994 13:1938
From: clarinews@clarinet.com (UPI)
Newsgroups: clari.biz.finance.earnings,clari.tw.computers,clari.biz.products
Subject: Gateway 2000 issues bullish outlook
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 94 17:12:07 PST

	NORTH SIOUX CITY, S.D. (UPI) -- Gateway 2000 said Monday it expects to
show record sales and record earnings for its fourth quarter.
	The personal computer producer, in an announcement made after the
stock market closed, said fourth quarter sales were expected to be in
excess of $545 million, compared with $354 million in the fourth quarter
of 1992.
	Gateway 2000, the leading mail-order marketer of personal computers
in the United States, said earnings would be between $30 million, or 41
cents a share, and $31.5 million, or 43 cents a share, in the 1992
quarter.
	Third-quarter revenues were $400 million and nine-month sales of $1.
19 billion. It said 1993 revenues were expected to surpass $1.73 billion
on the sale of approximately 692,000 units.
	Ted Waitt, chairman and chief executive officer, said the revenue
growth was due to strong demand for products running on Intel Corp.'s
Pentium microprocessor, multimedia PCs and its line of portable PCs.
	``Sales of portable PCs grew significantly from the third quarter,''
he said. ``We also saw strong momentum for our multimedia and Pentium
products in the fourth quarter, and we expect that trend to continue.''
	Gateway 2000 went public in December with a $160 million intitial
public offering. Analysts have said that the issue was priced
inexpensively at about 10 times projected 1993 earnings.
	Gateway 2000 has been highly successful at the direct marketing of
IBM-compatible desktop and portable personal computers through mail
order. By eliminating marketing middlemen, Gateway has been able to
offer attractive prices.
	Companies such as Packard Bell, Gateway 2000, AST Research, Dell
Computer Corp. and Northgate have been credited with pioneering the mass
market for personal computers in the United States through such tactics
as direct mail, selling through mass merchandisers rather computer
stores and selling machines with software applications already loaded
in.
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641.8MSBCS::BROWN_LWed Apr 27 1994 20:363
    Interesting data point:
    Close prices, 4/26/94: GATE: 20 1/4;  DEC: 20 1/4