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Conference nyoss1::market_investing

Title:Market Investing
Moderator:2155::michaud
Created:Thu Jan 23 1992
Last Modified:Thu Jun 05 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1060
Total number of notes:10477

551.0. "New Tax rates-care to speculate on short term effecect" by KISMIF::STUKALIN () Mon Aug 16 1993 17:16

    
    New Tax Rates - What effect would they have ?
    
    If you are in a speculative mood, post you thoughts on what effect new tax
    rates would have on :
    
    Stock Markets
    
    Bonds
    
    Real Estate Markets
    
    Specific industries, which would do better and which worse.
    
    Here is what I would guess. ( Not an educated guess, just speculation )
    
    Investment Real Estate will go up. It is a tax shelter, which is more
    valuable now. Will take 2 to 3 years to have full effect.
    
    Welthy professionals will see greatest negative impact. Attorneys and 
    doctors will have less money left to buy what they would like to buy.
    So, luxury items such as BMW cars, Vacation Homes, and possibly high
    end of residential real estate would see a immediate negative effect.
    
    
    
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551.1VMSDEV::HAMMONDCharlie Hammond -- ZKO3-04/S23 -- dtn 381-2684Tue Aug 17 1993 11:4223
>    Wealthy professionals will see greatest negative impact. Attorneys and 

      One  could  argue  that  the wealthy are wealthy because they have
      skills in high demand.  Thus they can raise prices to  offset  the
      impact  of  the  new  tax rates.  This leads to a rich-get-richer,
      poor-get-poorer scenario, which could be augmented by a  generally
      depressing  effect  of  the  tax package on the economy.  I'm only
      speculating here, not arguing pro-or-con.  
      
      My  opinion  is  that  Health  Care  Reform could have *MUCH* more
      impact that this new tax package.  But "could" and "will" are  not
      the same. My guess is that its substance (economic impact) will be
      much less than its form. Politicians don't like having to stand up
      and  be counted.  Since they were just forced into doing so on the
      tax package they'll make every effort to avoid a similar situation
      over Health Care.

      On  the  other  hand,  rightly or wrongly, a lot of people seem to
      believe that health care professionals are  grossly  overpaid  and
      that the system does need major reform.  So, who knows???
      
          Opps... this is a New Tax Package note.  
            Sorry for the health care tangent.
551.2please post 93, 94 ratesPOTDAM::POTTERFri Oct 29 1993 13:144
    Could someone please post the '93 and '94 tax rates?
    
    Thanks,
    John
551.3question on short .vs. long term gainsPARVAX::WARDLE_MWed Dec 08 1993 23:2912
    Not sure if this belongs here...but...wth
    
    We've been considering taking a gain on one of the stocks we hold. I
    don't have a tax reference handy and was wondering if anyone can
    clarify the tax effect of short term .vs. long term gains.
    
    This sale would qualify as a short term gain.
    
    To clarify, what I'm curious about is how much of a difference in taxes
    there is between short and long term.
    
    Marie
551.4ZENDIA::FERGUSONRed XThu Dec 09 1993 12:449
re                     <<< Note 551.3 by PARVAX::WARDLE_M >>>
                  -< question on short .vs. long term gains >-

>    To clarify, what I'm curious about is how much of a difference in taxes
>    there is between short and long term.
 
In MASS (is this where you live?), short-term gains are taxed at 12% and
long-term gains at 6%.

551.5Capital gains still 28% ???CSCMA::BALICHThu Dec 09 1993 12:547
    
    re .-1
    
    I thought short term or long term capital gains where BOTH taxed at 28% 
    (thats assuming your in the 28% tax-rate)
    
    I'd be *very* interested in hearing where you read this ???
551.6We are talking fed and state here...USCTR1::BJORGENSENThu Dec 09 1993 12:595
    .4 is talking about STATE taxes only - fed taxes short and long term
    gaines equally (28% or whatever) So if you live in Mass, your total
    short term tax burden is 28% (or whatever your rate is) + 12% for a
    wop'n 40%.  Long term would be 28% + 6% for a total of 34%.
    
551.7PARVAX::WARDLE_MTue Dec 14 1993 22:175
    I was asking about fed taxes...I should have clarified that. Anyway, I
    thought the rate was the same for short or long term but haven't had a
    short term gain for awhile and was curious.
    
    Thanks....
551.8Long term capped at 28%KOALA::BOUCHARDThe enemy is wiseWed Dec 15 1993 13:333
    The IRS taxes short and long term gains at the same rate up to the 28%
    income bracket.  Beyond that short term gains are taxes are your income
    bracket (31%, ...) but long term gains are capped at 28%.
551.9Feel lucky? Go ahead, make their day.VMSDEV::HALLYBFish have no concept of fireWed Dec 15 1993 14:365
>    bracket (31%, ...) but long term gains are capped at 28%.
    
    But remember that Congress is not above raising taxes retroactively.
    
      John