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Conference nyoss1::market_investing

Title:Market Investing
Moderator:2155::michaud
Created:Thu Jan 23 1992
Last Modified:Thu Jun 05 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1060
Total number of notes:10477

314.0. "Borland (BORL)" by BALBOA::HOSSEINI () Mon Nov 23 1992 20:50

    I have been watching Borland (NASDAQ: BORL) loosing its' value
    from about $34 (2 weeks ago) to $22 (today).  I know it has been down
    graded by a few analysts.  Is $22 a good price to purchase some?
    Any opinion? 
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314.1Might be good but personally I'd wait a littleMCIS2::BONVALLATMon Nov 23 1992 21:1713
Well, I don't have a strong opinion but I have one....

My brother follows this company closely.  He feels that although
investors are currently consumed with the serious competitive threat
coming from Microsoft (hence the sell-off), that Borland has some
significant long-term strengths in the database area that aren't going
to go away - plus new products due out next year.  [I'm not being
too specific because he is the one with the details]

My own opinion as to when to buy is to wait for the stock to base
in the 10-18 area (most likely around 18).   Even if it doesn't go
that low, its generally premature to buy a stock when it has just made
a new yearly low.
314.2SUBWAY::SAMBAMURTYRajaTue Nov 24 1992 12:493
    I too would wait. I read that Microsoft is planning a price war.
    Although, the price war was supposed to attack Lotus market share, I
    would still wait to see how that plays out.
314.3Playing in the big leagues nowVIZUAL::FINNERTYSell high, buy lowTue Nov 24 1992 14:4035
    
    Borland's big problem, as pointed out in -.2, is Microsoft.  Their
    second problem is that they are very late with Paradox 4.0 for Windows. 
    I saw the product demonstrated last November, they keep promising it
    and they keep delaying...
    
    Now Microsoft comes out with Access (a Windows database) and buys out
    Fox Software (the former performance champ on the pc).  
    
    Microsoft also has an SQL link to talk with db servers such as DEC's 
    Rdb... where does that leave Borland?
    
    in a very tight spot, especially considering that Paradox/Windows still
    hasn't shipped.  btw, Paradox/Windows is a *great* product, so there's
    still hope, and their DOS product still has a lot of life, but faced
    with the Microsoft machine and a powerful client/server message from
    Microsoft and an equally potent threat from Microsoft/Fox, things look
    grim indeed.
    
    btw, Quattro/Pro hasn't been all that well received either.
    
    When Borland finally gets around to shipping Paradox/Windows, this may
    be an opportunity for a turnaround; however, my impression is that the
    new product is too complex for their existing customer base, which
    consists largely of non-programmers.  This means that they'll be going
    head to head against Microsoft.
    
    I don't think it is necessarily the ninth inning with two outs and a
    full count; Borland is a strong company and the possibility of a
    turnaround can't be ignored (I, for one, wouldn't have the guts to
    short them at this point), but they're at least at the seventh inning
    stretch and they'd better get in gear fast if they hope to survive.
    
       /jim
    
314.4Anti-trust laws.....SPECXN::KANNANTue Nov 24 1992 14:5713
   Another fact to be considered is that MicroSoft might get slapped with
   anti-trust laws some time real soon, especially when NT takes off. 
   It seems like they are getting too greedy for their own good.
   If anti-trust suits succeed in court (there is no guarantee of that
   given IBM has been able to fend off most effectively in the last 25 years -
   but lost their monopolies by being too big and too stupid.),
   Borland could be a big winner. If MicroSoft plays hardball too much
   expect Borland to file a couple of these suits themselves.

   In the long run, Borland may be a winner!

   Nari
314.5Access not up to par?TALLIS::DARCYWed Jan 20 1993 04:436
    Re: .3
    
    Borland might be a good buy seeing as Microsoft's Access has been
    getting poor reviews lately (buggy software)...
    
    /george