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Conference nyoss1::market_investing

Title:Market Investing
Moderator:2155::michaud
Created:Thu Jan 23 1992
Last Modified:Thu Jun 05 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1060
Total number of notes:10477

159.0. "Confused SERPer Needs Help" by NEADEV::HANDLOFF (NOTARY SOJAC) Thu Apr 16 1992 17:27

    I'm taking early retirement and am trying to figure out how to invest
    my lump sum. I have been going through this conference and I am 
    completely confused. Here's what I'm trying to achieve: I want to roll
    my money into an IRA that I won't touch until I'm 60. Then I want to be
    able to withdraw a reasonable amount every year (say 7 - 8%) without
    reducing the principal. Finally, I want to do this with the smallest
    possible risk. 
    
    I don't expect to necessarily get the complete solution here, but I
    would very much appreciate some leads. For example, what kinds of
    investments should I consider? If mutual funds, what types? What should
    I avoid?  What books or magazines would be helpful?
    
    Thanks,
    
    Hillel
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159.1See notes 115, 124, 144MINAR::BISHOPThu Apr 16 1992 17:516
    Do  DIR/TIT=SERP and SEA SERP.
    
    You'll learn that "smallest possible risk" and "8% without
    reducing the principal" may be difficult to combine.
    
    		-John Bishop
159.2The way I see it...HABS11::MASONExplaining is not understandingThu Apr 16 1992 19:4225
    Also note that you are asking several different questions:
    
    1. Risk - varies by fund, investment strategy of fund, etc.
    
    2. Risk - diversification to have them offset each other.
    
    3. Annuity - there are tables everywhere that contain number of years
    drawn vs quantity invested with the body of the table being how much
    you can get per payment, and the table being predicated upon a given
    interest rate. They are only good so long as the rate stays the same.
    If it changes, you look at another table. They are also based upon what
    you wish to happen to the principal (some get to zero at the end of the
    predicated time period; some are not diminished at all; etc.).
    
    Go to a few investment seminars (look in NOTED::SERP and here, I
    presume, for details). Maybe look at a few books on investing.
    
    I am a novice, but it is clear that most of the desireable
    characteristics work in opposition to one another (you know - good,
    fast, cheap, pick two). It might even be necessary (did he say that) to
    spend a few bucks with a financial planner, if for no other reason but
    peace of mind.
    
    Cheers...Gary
    
159.3VMSDEV::HAMMONDCharlie Hammond -- ZKO3-04/S23 -- dtn 381-2684Thu Apr 16 1992 20:1913
>    ... I want to be able to withdraw a reasonable amount [from my IRA] 
>    every year (say 7 - 8%) without reducing the principal. ...

      If my memory is correct you can't do this.  (If my memory is wrong,
      I appologize.  Someone will surely correct me.)
      
      What  I  seem  to  remember is that after a certain age you *MUST*
      withdraw a minimum amount each  year  from  your  IRA  account(s).
      (Maybe calculated to reduce your IRA to $0 based on your actuarial
      life expectancy?)
      
      Of  course  you  could SPEND only 7-8% and put whatever additional
      withdrawal is required into another, non-IRA account.
159.4SEEPO::MARCHETTIIn Search of the Lost BoardFri Apr 17 1992 16:445
    The requirement to take out a certain amount of money only begins when you
    reach 70.5 years old.  Until then, you don't have to take out any or
    you can take it all out, or anything in between.
    
    Bob
159.5SAVE or Ginny May no-load.WLDWST::C_LEEWed Apr 22 1992 04:396
    re.0
    
    1) Put your PLUMP into SAVE which is at 8.14%, withdrawal of two times
       a year is allowed. This was discussed in NOTED::SERP.
    
    2) Ginny May no load mutual funds are at about 8%.
159.6GICs aren't guaranteed.CSC32::B_HIBBERTWhen in doubt, PANICWed Apr 29 1992 04:485
  SAVE fund A is a GIC (Guaranteed Investment Contract). The name is VERY 
misleading.  Check out other notes in this conference that discuss the 
characteristics of GICs.

Brian