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Conference nyoss1::market_investing

Title:Market Investing
Moderator:2155::michaud
Created:Thu Jan 23 1992
Last Modified:Thu Jun 05 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1060
Total number of notes:10477

137.0. "Zweig Funds Track Record" by CGOOA::DURNIN () Mon Mar 30 1992 21:09

    Hi,
    
    A new fund is being launched in Canada managed by Dr. Martin Zweig.
    This will be a small cap fund and is a no-load fund. 
    
    I understand that Zweig is the #1 ranked from Hurlbert Financial for
    the last 10 years.  He also has a very good reputation.  
    
    Does anyone have any money managed by Martin Zweig or can you comment
    further on his performance record/track record based on U.S. investment
    accounts.
    
    Thanks,   Jim
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137.1All-weather ApproachAKOCOA::GLANTZTue Mar 31 1992 04:0211
    Marty is a technician by trade, a timid one at heart.
    
    As a technician, his system does a credible job of trend following. 
    The drawback is that such systems don't anticipate.
    
    As a man surrounded by a gray cloud of doubt, he tempers his technical
    indicators with caution.
    
    Morningstar rates his funds as above average return with below average
    risk.  I think that means you won't hit any home runs with Marty at
    bat, but you won't lose money even in the worst of times. 
137.2Not all technicians are created equalEPIK::FINNERTYTue Mar 31 1992 13:5721
    
    >> As a technician, his system does a credible job of trend following.
    >> The drawback is that such systems don't anticipate.
    
    This is not true.  Actually, he has an excellent record of calling the
    turns in the market...  this is, in fact, what he is best known for.
    In his book, which describes some of his timing methods, he is somewhat
    critical of purely trend-following approaches, since they tend to be
    wrong at the most important times.
    
    >> As a man surrounded by a gray cloud of doubt, he tempers his
    >> technical indicators with caution.
    
    Yes, he is cautious, but that is not to say he is equivocal.  He is
    very straight about what he recommends and what he does not recommend. 
    He does hedge positions by, e.g. taking up short futures positions, but
    this kind of caution is not *indecision*...  he sometimes recommends
    cautious positions when such positions might be expected to make a 
    profit.
    
    
137.3MR4DEC::BMCWILLIAMSImprovise if you have to ...Tue Mar 31 1992 23:5310
    RE. Zweig funds:
    
    Both the BUsinessWeek and Money magazine ratings of Zweig's various
    funds are not too hot. Both the Priority and Strategy funds finished
    1991 in the bottom half of funds in their class. To achieve these
    mediocre returns, the funds showed a high level of turnover and --
    understandably -- a fairly high expense ratio: 1.77 and 1.66%
    respectively. On top of this, there's a 5.5% sales charge.
    
    Brian
137.4Congratulations on election to W$W Hall of FameVMSDEV::HALLYBFish have no concept of fire.Wed Apr 01 1992 12:145
    I have to wonder just how many funds Marty Zweig can manage, in
    addition to writing books and newsletters and appearing on W$W.
    I think the guy is fantastic, but he's not superhuman.
    
      John
137.5SFCPMO::SFC04::SMITHPWritten but not readThu Apr 02 1992 20:415
I recall a W$W from a few years ago when Marty said it was far easier to 
make correct and timely calls for his monthly newsletter than his funds. I 
infered from this that recommending someone rise there cash level from 
10% to 30% in a newsletter was simple compared to rising one of his stock funds 
cash level from 10% to 30%.
137.6High Min. Initial $10,000.00 InvestmentCGOOA::DURNINWed Apr 22 1992 00:3815
    Hi,
    
    I've received a prospectus for the Canadian based Zweig fund and one of
    the interesting things about the fund is the relatively high initial
    investment requirement.
    
    Ten thousand dollars is the minimum to get in ($10,000.00).  This seems
    pretty hefty to me so I'm going to have to investigate a little more
    before I lay down this big chunk of change.
    
    Any further comments would be appreciated.  I'll keep you posted.
    
    Oh yeah, that's 10K Cdn. about $8400.00 US.
    
    Regards,  Jim