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Conference nyoss1::market_investing

Title:Market Investing
Moderator:2155::michaud
Created:Thu Jan 23 1992
Last Modified:Thu Jun 05 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1060
Total number of notes:10477

19.0. "local high-tech stock mutual fund - ???" by BUNDY::LONG () Fri Jan 24 1992 21:24

Ideally, there would exist out there somewhere a mutual fund that invests in
local (Eastern Mass ?) small high-tech/networking companies.  Holdings would
include stocks like Wellfleet, Xyplex, Cabletron, maybe Logicraft (I know,
that's NH ... are they even publicly held?)

I'm planning to look into the holdings of Fidelity's high-tech sector fund;
this might be the closest thing to what I'm looking for.  Any thoughts/
comments/suggestions?


Thanks

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19.1what do you waht your $$$ to do?SOLVIT::CHENMon Jan 27 1992 13:0311
    My personal opinion is that if you are thinking of putting your money
    to help the local economy, you can buy stocks from the local companies.
    If your objective is to put your money to work for you and generate
    profit from it, you shouldn't put restrictions on your fund managers on
    where he/she can put your money into. It's like to ask a tennis player
    to win the championship, and yet, he/she has to put a chain on his/her
    ankles and pair of hand-cuffs. Personally, I think sector funds are
    'chancy'. But than again, there were a few sector funds did very well
    last year.
    
    Mike 
19.2what I'm looking to do .....BUNDY::LONGMon Jan 27 1992 13:4413
I'm looking to invest in these companies for my own long-term growth.
The reason I'm looking for a mutual fund rather than buying the stocks
directly is that I've only got around 2K to put in this direction.  I
don't feel I can get what I want, with any appropriate diversity for this
kind of investment, by buying directly.

-.1  I understand your point about limiting, etc.  I just felt that with
the current state of my resources, an m-fund would still be the better way 
for me to go.



19.3MF is the way to go...SOLVIT::CHENMon Jan 27 1992 14:4011
    re: .2
    
    I would go for a good no-load mutual fund. 2K is not enought to build a
    diversified stock portfolio by yourself. But, it is enought to get into
    some of the top rated no-load funds and you meet the minimum balance so
    you don't pay any charges. Money magazine and Kiplinger's magazine have
    some good recommendations. However, I would buy a fund for its
    performance, not which states it invests in. The key is to pick a good
    fund manager and give him/her as much 'freedom' as possible.
    
    Mike
19.4Fidelity may be the answerCIMNET::NMILLERNick MillerTue Jan 28 1992 11:214
    Fidelity in fact has a sector fund that tracks small communications
    companies (many of which are in MA). It's new and not large enough to
    get tracked in the newspaper yet - call Fido for details (I can't think
    of the name, but it has "communications" in it).
19.5SUBSYS::GANESHGaneshTue Jan 28 1992 15:2313
    I would never put any money in a Fidelity sector fund. Not counting
    one-time expenses such as the front-end 3% load, the back-end "transfer fee"
    and redemption fee, their sector funds have a maximum annual expense
    of 2.5% - I believe this is state-mandated - and many of them actually 
    reach that level of expenditure, perhaps due to their small asset base. 
    I also find it very puzzling that their portfolio turnover rates are 
    quite high (I thought the idea was to buy a few companies in the sector 
    and sit on them).
    
    In any case, call me cheap, but to me 2.5% per year seems a bit 
    on the high side.
    
    - Ganesh.
19.6how much do you care if you lose that $2K ?CSSE::NEILSENWally Neilsen-SteinhardtTue Jan 28 1992 16:0123
.2>I've only got around 2K to put in this direction

I think you have two good alternatives, neither mentioned here.

LOW RISK: Put this 2K into a no-load money fund.  Add $$$ every chance you get.
Use your time to research the industry and play the market on paper.  When your 
balance is about $10K, start thinking about the alternative below.

HIGH RISK: Research the industry carefully and buy 100 shares of the best
company you can find under $20 per share.  Every week or so repeat your 
research and decide if it is time to change companies.  There is a good 
chance you can run your $2K down to $1K this way, but at least you will have 
learned a lot more than you ever could in a mutual fund.


As you can probably tell, I don't think much of sector funds.  If you know the
industry, you should be picking your own stocks.  If you don't, you are 
probably better off in a broad-based mutual fund.  Otherwise the volatility and
the expenses mentioned in a previous note will kill you.

The only people I can see who ought to use sector funds are those who are sure
they understand the market well enough to predict the directions of different
sectors, but don't know any industry well enough to pick stocks in it.
19.7check WSJ last weekCIVIC::COUTUREGary Couture - NH Sales SupportTue Jan 28 1992 19:204
Check out this weeks Wall Street Journal...Monday issue or maybe last thurs 
or Fri.  They showed 5 or so mutual funds that are specializing in small high
 tech companies such as cabletron which should bounce back if recession turns
around.  I'll chack my copies for specifics.