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Title:Arcana Caelestia
Notice:Directory listings are in topic 2
Moderator:NETRIX::thomas
Created:Thu Dec 08 1983
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1300
Total number of notes:18728

558.0. "BABIES" by OLDMAN::TUCKER () Wed Jan 06 1988 22:44

 HAS ANYBODY EVER SEEN A MOVIE ABOUT BABIES.  I REMEMBER SEEING SOMETHING
    ABOUT BABIES THAT ATTACK PEOPLE.  CAN'T REMEMBER WHAT IT WAS.
    
    
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558.1MANANA::RAVANTryin' to make it realThu Jan 07 1988 12:0510
    I take it you are not referring to the natural weapons with which
    real babies usually bombard, spray, and otherwise attack their
    parents... :-)
    
    There was "The Brood," I think, and "It's Alive!", both of which
    were about mutant babies of some kind. I'm sure there have been
    more, though few that were memorable. (Unless you're thinking of
    baby aliens!)
    
    -b
558.2Trilogy of TerrorSQM::MCCAFFERTYMon Jan 11 1988 18:087
    I seem to remember a television movie "Trilogy of Terror(?)" in
    which one of the stories dealt with a child's dolls coming to life
    ,torturing & terrorizing the childs mother.  I remember little else
    about the other two stories but this one I beleive was the best
    of the three and provided a decent scare.  Anyone else recall this?
    
    							John
558.3munch, munch, ...ERASER::KALLISHas anybody lost a shoggoth?Mon Jan 11 1988 18:5316
    Re .2 (John):
    
    _Trilogy of Terror_ starred Kasren Black.  There were three stories,
    even as implied by the title.  The final one, "The Devil Doll,"
    apparently had the maximum impact on most audiences.  It's about
    a little black doll that looks like a cross between a carved wooden
    equivalent of a voodoo doll and a phirana (_lotsa_ teeth!!!).  This
    little critter goes after Karen B. with the obvious intent of chomping
    her.  Sorta like a killer shrew, or some such.
    
    I've VAXmail corresponded with folk who thought it was terrifying.
    Others have found it mildly amusing.
    
    Okay for a Saturday afternoon; it's findable on videocasette.
    
    Steve Kallis, Jr.
558.4REGENT::POWERSTue Jan 12 1988 12:338
The idea of a doll attacking adults has been used fairly often.
In addition to the "Trilogy of Terror," I can recall an episode
of Twilight Zone and another on Night Gallery.  The TZ version,
as I recall, was about a father who kept trying to discard a doll
his daughter spoke to and confided in.  The NG version was about a 
parting gift from a native to a British officer who had served in India.

- tom]
558.5Jane Fonda's not fonda them eitherBEVRLY::KASPERThis note contains exactly ---> Tue Jan 12 1988 14:236
    I remember seeing Trilogy of Terror a long time ago.  The doll was the
    most memorable part -- I thought it was pretty revolting.  It didn't
    give me nightmares, but I didn't enjoy it either.
    
    And while we're listing nasty dolls, let's not forget Barbarella!!!
    
558.6ERASER::KALLISHas anybody lost a shoggoth?Tue Jan 12 1988 18:2012
    Re .5:
    
    >  ...  -- I thought it was pretty revolting.  It didn't
    >give me nightmares, but I didn't enjoy it either.
     
    One of the more prolific Noters in the MOVIES file told me that
    she saw this on the tube while in college with a bunch of her
    classmates (all girls).  The story gave all of them the willies
    (U.S. idiom), and she had nightmares for some time.  So you can't
    tell.
    
    Steve Kallis, Jr.
558.7The black dollTUNER::FLISFri Jan 15 1988 13:1418
    I recall one story (TV) but can not recall the title.
    
    It is about a small white girl with a doll of a black girl.  The mother
    refused to allow her daughter to play with a 'black' doll and always
    took it away from her.  Some how the girl always got the doll back
    even though the mother placed it in impossible places.
    
    At times she would see the girl out in the yard playing with the
    doll and hear *two* voices talking as she approached, only to find
    just the girl and the doll.
    
    The show ended in this way, where the mother approached her, again,
    playing under a tree with the doll.  Only to find a small black
    girl playing with a white doll...
    
    T'was well done.
    jim
    
558.8The Midwich CuckoosBMT::MENDESFree Lunches For SaleMon Jan 25 1988 18:215
    There's the old (black&white) classic, "The Midwich Cuckoos". Of
    course, they don't remain babies very long, and the excitement occurs
    when they are young (pre-teen). From the book by John Wyndham.
    
    - Richard
558.9Across the pond...SLTERO::KENAHQuivering in sympathetic vibration...Tue Jan 26 1988 16:093
    In the US, I think the film was called "Village of the Damned."
    
    					andrew
558.10Topic's Alive IIINYEM1::RDAVISRay DavisThu Jan 28 1988 00:2318
    OK, we're on a roll...
    
    There's Joseph Losey's great "These Are The Damned" (original Brit
    title "The Damned" - not sure whether "Village..." was renamed for
    this or visa-versa).  Not only did we get dangerous kids, but cross
    referenced for dangerous adolescents (Oliver Reed!).
    
    And there's "It Lives Again" (AKA "It's Alive II" I wish AKA "It's
    STILL Alive") by the great Larry Cohen, who's made sort of a specialty
    of parents vs. children movies.
    
    David Cronenberg has already been named for "The Brood", I think.
    
    About the dolls...  The "Night Gallery" episode about the "Out In,
    Out In, Out In Injia" doll is the most embarrassing thing I've ever
    had nightmares from, other than the "Night Gallery" episode about
    the shadows on the wall.  "Night Gallery" was crap next to T.Z.
    but they sure knew how to manipulate kid's imaginations by then.
558.11AKOV11::BOYAJIANLyra RA 18h 28m 37s D 31d 49mThu Jan 28 1988 04:2015
    re:.8 & .9
    
    As far as I can tell from my reference books, the film was never
    titled THE MIDWICH CUCKOOS, after the novel, only VILLAGE OF THE
    DAMNED. Curiously enough, it was remade only three years later
    under the title CHILDREN OF THE DAMNED, by the same studio (MGM),
    but with a completely different cast and crew.
    
    re.10
    
    Unlikely that the film was titled VILLAGE OF THE DAMNED after
    (THESE ARE THE DAMNED), since it was made a year earlier (1960
    for VILLAGE..., 1961 for THESE...).
    
    --- jerry
558.12Sorry if I'm repeating ..BIRGP1::ALLENThu Jan 28 1988 08:377
    Not sure whether this has already been mentioned and I've missed
    it, but there were some rather unpleasant children and dolls in
    BARBARELLA (that Jane Fonda SF send-up from the late '60's/early
    '70's -- can't remember when exactly).
    
    Michelle