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Title:Arcana Caelestia
Notice:Directory listings are in topic 2
Moderator:NETRIX::thomas
Created:Thu Dec 08 1983
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1300
Total number of notes:18728

861.0. "Streiber's Communion" by SWAPIT::LAM () Wed Mar 14 1990 14:35

    I've just finished reading _Communion_ by Whitley Streiber.  I found it
    somewhat interesting but most of the book is long, drawn out and
    boring.  A lot of it discusses his hypnosis session where he recalls
    being experimented on by UFO beings.  I'm not sure if this is
    considered science fiction but I thought it interesting to start a
    topic on it.  Does anyone have any opinions about this book. For those
    who have read it, do you think it gives some proof that extraterrestrial
    life exists?  Do you think that Streiber deluded himself into believing
    that ET's are running around kidnapping and experimenting with humans?
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861.1RUBY::BOYAJIANSecretary of the StratosphereThu Mar 15 1990 05:025
    It's presented as if it was fact, so I don't consider it science
    fiction. However, Strieber has recently come out with a novel
    based on this idea (I forget the title).
    
    --- jerry
861.2USMRM3::SPOPKESThu Mar 15 1990 18:328
    I, personally, believe one of two things: 1) streiber is schizophrenic
    and the episodes are the creation of his mind, 2) it's fiction but
    streiber believed that he could make more money by declaring it
    fact.
    
    I feel the same way about carlos castenada, however.
    
    stevep
861.3Castenada & Streiber the same?SWAPIT::LAMThu Mar 15 1990 19:247
    re -.1
    
    Funny, you should mention Carlos Casteneda, because as I was reading
    this book I couldn't help but notice a lot of similarities between
    Casteneda's books and Streiber's _Communion_.
    
    kl
861.4Revised pointer to UFOS conferenceGUESS::STOLOSThu Mar 15 1990 21:025
    for more info you may check OCTAVE::UFOS 
    the whole UFO abduction idea has been bantered around alot, and by ufo
    researcher who seem much more credible that streiber. if your 
    interested in a good scare read note 63 "the lear file"
    pete
861.5Anybody see the movie?FORTSC::KRANTZAs simple as possible, but not moresoFri Mar 16 1990 05:470
861.6GUESS::STOLOSFri Mar 16 1990 18:4512
    i didn't see the movie the reviews i read were bad...i have seen
    previews of it for its video tape release. i don't know if its been
    released yet.
    
    i have always regarded these types of books as guilty pleasures,
    because they are proclaimed as actual events they tend to really 
    effect me alot more than fiction (i.e. nightmares). what really 
    surprises me about streiber is that if his story is make up, he
    did alot of research on it because his abduction tale is very
    similar to many other( i.e. Betty and Barney Hill, and the Andereason
    affair). 
    pete
861.7Lies, all liesCHEFS::BARKTue Mar 20 1990 15:1510
    Disch on Strieber
    
    There are a couple of articles by Tom Disch which effectively demolish
    Streiber, partly by pointing out similarities with his fiction.
    These appeared in "The Nation" and were re-printed in the British
    magazine "Interzone".  His position is that Streiber and anyone
    else who claims to have contacted aliens simply tell lies to bolster
    their own sense of importance/make a lot of money.  I agree with
    him.
    
861.8ROULET::RUDMANAlways the Black Knight.Thu Mar 29 1990 03:114
    re: .4  For a scarier scare, read the latest in the UFO "coverup"
    in the UFO file entitled The UFO Conspiracy.  136.1.
    
    							Don
861.9NighteyesKAOFS::B_CORBINBRIANThu Apr 19 1990 19:486
    There is a novel called "Nighteyes" I read a while ago which is on a
    similar theme.  This novel poses some interesting theories for the
    "UFO Kidnappings".
    
    Brian
    
861.10alot of artworkGUESS::STOLOSWed Jun 06 1990 16:107
    well i finially saw the video and i actually enjoyed it.
    i expected it to be much worse that it actually was...
    one of the nice thing they did in the movie was have the indoor scences
    almost cluttered with artwork and it made the film endurable.
    i wouldn't recomend going out to see it in a movie house but a buck
    home video wasn't bad.
    pete
861.11A good Strieber bookCHFS32::HMONTGOI feel a thought approachingSat Sep 15 1990 16:3529
    Communion gave me nightmares, too, and the UFO conference is where
    I found reassurance that his story is BS.  It's bad to wake up in
    the middle of the night needing to get up, but your afraid to look
    into the corners of the room...
    
    Strieber wrote some horror, The Howling and some other greebie books.
    Then he wrote some other really good books with another author,
    then the Communion business, I think now he's back to horror.  I
    read Communion because I was thoroughly impressed with the books
    he and James Kunetka (?) wrote.  I would highly recommend their
    book Natures End.  Taking place in 2050, the earth's ecology is
    shot and there is a lot of effort taking place to correct it.  The
    biggest effort of all is by a polition from India by the name of
    Singh, who creates the Depopulationist party.  His object is to
    save the planet by causing billions to commit suicide.
    
    The main character is a convictor - through computer programs he
    can build a complete working model of someone's psyche.  This model
    will answer any questions completely honestly, unlike the real human,
    thereby exposing that person for what they really are.  This is
    rough on politicians; kind of like getting up in the morning and
    finding the IRS on your doorstep when you've been cheating on your
    taxes.  Realizing that Singh needs to be stopped, John Sinclair
    decides he better do a conviction on Singh.  Problem is, it may
    now be too late to stop him.
    
    Reason I mention this book here is that since Strieber has returned
    to writing non-sf I'll probably never see his name again and IMHO
    this book is well worth mentioning.
861.12WARDAYCSC32::K_JOHNSONA Vulcan in sheeps clothingWed May 15 1991 23:579
    
    I very much concur with .11 on "Nature's End"; fascinating reading.
    For another page-turner well worth the price of admission by the
    same two author's, read "WARDAY". It involves the saga of a journalist
    and his companion who set out across Post WWIII America to record
    the aftermath of nuclear war, and describe the remnants of American
    society, along with the political consequences. Extremely thought
    provoking and poignant, as was "Nature's End".
    
861.13what is reality?SALEM::BOUTHILLIERThu Jan 21 1993 12:314
    Has  anyone read note 1541.19 in the  DEJAVU conference? It certainly
    could lead  to  many  sci fi stories that could be  developed from this
    extraterrestial  communication.