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Title:Arcana Caelestia
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Moderator:NETRIX::thomas
Created:Thu Dec 08 1983
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1300
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360.0. "BRAZIL" by CDR::YERAZUNIS (VAXstation Repo Man) Sat Jul 26 1986 03:55

    There seems to be something missing here...
    	
    Ah, yes.  Here it is.  A reciept. 
    	
    A reciept for a...
    	
    for a reciept.
    	
    The reciept is for my manager...
    		
    	
    	
    (in case you hadn't guessed, this discussion is about the film 
    	
    	
    		              B R A Z I L	
                               
    
    and how many ducts you can fit in a DECubicle)
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360.1Is it any good?STKTSC::LITBYThis is, of course, impossible.Sun Jul 27 1986 18:226
	'Brazil' didn't make it to the movie theatres here in Sweden - I
	guess  they thought of it as a B movie. It's available on video,
	however  -  do  you  consider it worth watching? If you do, I'll
	pick it up and let you know what I thought of it.

	<PO>
360.2I hate those little quizzes in magazinesCDR::YERAZUNISVAXstation Repo ManSun Jul 27 1986 21:3520
    Very much worth watching. At least for me.
    	
    Here's a pocket quiz to see if you should rent it, start with 
    zero points and total for yourself:
    	
    Do you like Monty Python?   Y:6 N:-3
    
    Did you like Stanley Kubrick's "The Shining" Y:2 N:-1
    	
    Did you like 1984 (the book)?  Y:4 N:-7
    	
    Do you like depressing movies?  Y:3 N:-3
    	
    Do you like social satire?  Y:4 N:-3
    
    Do you like movies in general?  Y:1 N:-2  
                                                    
    	
    For a liter of Rigellian giggle-juice, what scene in Brazil is modeled
    after a scene in "Battleship Potemkin"?
360.3Rate yourselfCDR::YERAZUNISVAXstation Repo ManSun Jul 27 1986 21:364
    I guess I should add that if you get over zero points, you definitely
    should see "Brazil", otherwise, you should see it only if you are
    in the mood.
    
360.4From Odessa with love - S.E. & W.A.SWSNOD::RPGDOCMon Jul 28 1986 12:5612
    RE: -2 "Potemkin"
    
    The Odessa steps sequence where the cossacks with fixed bayonets
    are marching down on the civilians and the woman lets the baby carriage
    (floor waxer) get away from her and it proceeds to tumble down the
    steps.  Also, the shot of the cracked glasses is right out of
    "Poetemkin" by way of Woody Allen, who also parodied this scene
    in, I believe, "Love and Death".                
    
    All this, of course, is referring to the scene near the end where
    the big shootout takes place in the lobby of the ministry.
    
360.5And the winner is...WHICH::YERAZUNISVAXstation Repo ManMon Jul 28 1986 14:344
    One liter, coming right up!
    	
    I hadn't noticed the cracked glasses- I better look harder !
    
360.6Fascinating...STKTSC::LITBYAre we taking this robot...?Sun Aug 10 1986 20:3116
	 Now I'm  never  going  to  dare open the ceiling tiles in my office
	 again... I peeked in there once and ooh!
	 Also, from now on I'm going to do my own plumbing.

	 It was  a  fascinating  movie.  Probably a plausible scenario for a
	 future techno-bureaucracy (sp?), although the characters were a bit
	 exaggerated  for  effect. The way they picture computer technology,
	 for  example  with  terminals  looking like 1930 typewriters, looks
	 like something out of an old Flash Gordon episode. 

	 As for  the  moral  of  the  story,  apart  from  "Don't  trust the
	 air-conditioning repairman", well, I don't know...

	 Incidentally, why   the  name  "Brazil"?  There  wasn't  very  much
	 that was Brazilian about it, apart from some of the music...
	 
360.7Brazil architectureKALKIN::BUTENHOFApproachable SystemsMon Aug 11 1986 12:2214
        Incidentally, we went to talk to the people designing our
        next house, and glanced through a copy of some architectural
        magazine while waiting.  There was an article about Brazil
        in there.  Apparently most of the scenes were filmed in real
        places (with the tubing added, of course)... including the
        50s-style futuristic apartment complex where the guy lives.
        Gilliam was enthusiastic about that place (though I don't
        recall where it actually was): "This place really *looks*
        like a movie set!"
        
        Gilliam apparently at one time aspired to becoming an architect,
        and is still fastinated by architecture.
        
        	/dave
360.8RE 360.6EDEN::KLAESIt's only a model!Mon Aug 11 1986 17:259
    	I do not know exactly why, but I read that BRAZIL was given
    the name on purpose to have absolutely NOTHING to do with the movie,
    unless it may have been a very subtle hint towards the Orwellian-type
    techniques used in many countries in South America.
    
    	Remember, Gilliam was the artist for Monty Python!
    
    	Larry
    
360.9Places in the movieWHICH::YERAZUNISVAXstation Repo ManMon Aug 11 1986 18:118
    It might be fun to live in that apartment complex for a year or
    so (strictly for amusement value).
    	
    Just like it might be fun to have a weeks vacation at "The Village"...
                                                                         
    I think that the "torture room" is a power plant cooling tower.
    Anybody know for sure?
    
360.10uh huhKALKIN::BUTENHOFApproachable SystemsTue Aug 12 1986 12:314
        .9: Yep, it was a real cooling tower.  Somewhere in France,
        I think, if I correctly remember the flavor of the name...
        
        	/dave
360.11song??SYSENG::HOBobbyWed Aug 13 1986 17:5110
    
    
    
    		Wasn't BRAZIL the name of some song or theme in the
    
    movie?
    
    
    
    							Robert
360.12RE 360.11EDEN::KLAESIt's only a model!Thu Aug 14 1986 15:005
    	Yes, but as I said in 360.8, the title of the movie has nothing
    to do with the COUNTRY of Brazil, unless you go by my speculation.
    
    	Larry
    
360.13re: 'Brazil'-movie->song->countrySOFBAS::JOHNSONIt's Only A State Of Mind...Tue Aug 19 1986 17:459
    The connection (I think this was elaborately discussed in MOVIES)
    is that the song 'Brazil,' the title tune of the movie, is about
    escape to paradise; when the song was written ('30's?) Brazil the
    country had a flavor of paradise/Utopia/escapism.  The movie is
    named after the song, because it is also about escapism, to a fantasy
    paradise.
    
    Matt
    
360.14Brazil la-la-la-la-la-la-laMXOV06::ZAJBERTAnd he could go all the wayThu Nov 19 1987 13:5113
    
    The complete score of the movie consists of different versions of
    the song "BRAZIL" in as many different styles as they could, I went
    out of the movie hating the song and not wanting to here it ever
    again. Actually I think the different versions were very good, adapting
    the song very well to each style, but it does leave a sense of anxiety
    every time you hear it after seeing the movie.
    
    	Somewhere I have a remark made by Gilliam about the movie and
    I think it was about the name, I'll look for it and post it here.
    
    							Mauricio