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Title:Arcana Caelestia
Notice:Directory listings are in topic 2
Moderator:NETRIX::thomas
Created:Thu Dec 08 1983
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1300
Total number of notes:18728

1265.0. "Victorian SF" by JGO::MARTIN () Wed Mar 22 1995 10:03

    
    I do not find a note concerning Victorian SF. So I open one.
    By Victorian SF, I mean a word like the Jules Verne word possible
    developments. It looks like an evolution of science and society on the
    basics of the XIX century in Europe. It has also been illustrated by
    the RPG 1899 (I think).
    I am looking for any source (books, films, comics, Role Playing Games
    ... ) on this topic.
    
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1265.1WHOS01::BOWERSDave Bowers @WHOWed Mar 22 1995 13:4211
How about (books):
	"The Difference Engine" - William Gibson & Bruce Sterling
	"Pavane" - Keith Roberts(?)
	
(Games):
	"Space: 1899" (PC Game)

There are numerous Sherlock Holmes pastiches which come VERY close to being
S-F, including a series with Prof. Moriarty as the hero where the plots tend to
involve hi-tech threats to Victorian England.  Isaac Asimov also edited an
anthology called "Sherlock Holmes in Space and Time".
1265.2Professor ChallengerBLKPUD::CHEETHAMDFri Mar 31 1995 12:156
    The Professor Challenger stories by Conan Doyle would certainly come
    under the heading of SF, the one title I remember is The Lost World but
    I have certainly read others. I suggest that you try a Conan Doyle
    omnibus
    
                              Dennis
1265.3AUSSIE::GARSONachtentachtig kacheltjesMon Apr 03 1995 05:114
    re .0
    
    Isaac Asimov editted (?) an anthology called something like "Nineteenth
    Century Science fiction". (Will check tonight.)
1265.4Something FishyKERNEL::BARLOWDThu Apr 06 1995 11:4014
re .0

I would reccomend the Novels of E.R. Eddington.

The Worm Ouroboros
Fish Dinner in Memphis
two others I can not remeber the name of.

they are highly reccomended but are more Fantasy. The worm Ouroboros is really a
comment about the politics of Europe at the turn of the Century.

Most of the late Victorian early Edwardian SF appears to be Fantasy. 

Dave Barlow
1265.5RT128::KENAHDo we have any peanut butter?Thu Apr 06 1995 13:4718
    Nit time:
    
    It E.R. Eddison
    
    The titles I can remember are:
    
    The Worm Ouroboros
    Fish Dinner at Memmison
    The Menzentian Gate
    And one other title 
    
    The one I enjoyed was "Worm" -- once it gets past the somewhat clumsy
    opening, it develops into one of the best adventure stories I've ever
    read.  The vocabulary is completely over the top, even by Victorian
    standards, and some of the physical descriptions do seem to go on and
    on forever, but -- neat characters (especially the bad guys) and a
    terrific plot.
    					andrew
1265.6WHOS01::BOWERSDave Bowers @WHOMon Apr 17 1995 15:193
    _Mistress_of_Mistresses_, If memory serves (I read through Eddison about
    25 years ago) precedes _A_Fish_Dinner_in_Memmison_ and has some of the
    same characters.
1265.7OOTOOL::CHELSEAMostly harmless.Mon Apr 17 1995 17:141
    I think A&E is doing a biography of Jules Verne tonight at 8 pm.
1265.8Just to say HIKERNEL::BARLOWDThu Apr 20 1995 12:099
Hello 

I have not actually read Fish dinner et al but thoroughly enjoyed the Worm. As
you say the langauge was OTT and then some. Many people credit Tolkien as the
father of the modern fantasy but after reading Eddison I would be more tempted
to give hime the credit.

DB