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RE:  -< Cherryh's Morgaine series >-

So ... what are the titles of these "wonderous" novels?

;^) PBR


Nice review!

Well, I don't have the books handy so...the last book is "Exile's Gate". It's
the longest and the best. The two of the others are "The Gate of Ivriel" and
"The Wells of Shiuin" but the spelling is a guess. I can't remember the other
title but it's something like "Fires of Aezeroth".

EG ends with a setup for another story and I hope Cherryh writes one. liesl

    Another voice in favour of the Morgaine tetrology.
    
    I find Cherryh is near her best in this series, especially in the
    fourth book as liesl states.
    
    Carolyn balances relationships with plot as well as the best authors.
    I could imagine having a conversation with either Vanye or Morgaine
    on many topics and have an idea of how they might respond.
    ALternatively, the plots motor along and each book is a quick read.
    
    She also is able to have Vanye, from a sexist medieval culture and
    MOrgaine from a more humanist futurist culture come to common terms
    with both seeming to be whole personalities and not stereotyped.
    
    Cheers,
    	Goerge_who_just_bought_Cherryh's_Rusalka

    Without disagreeing with the good review, personally I had trouble with
    Exile's Gate (note 797.0).  Maybe if I had read the three earlier Gate
    stories first I would have appreciated the last one better.
    
    --Simon
    

    
    
       Are these books still available? I've only seen two of them and I
    would like to read the whole series, but I won't start it if I can't
    find all of them. Also, what order do they go in?
    
    
    Chaos
    

    They are still available at most chains.  Just hit one that has a good
    SF selection.
    
    The titles of the books are: Gates of Ivrel, Well of Shiuan, Fires of
    Azeroth and of coarse, Exiles Gate.
    
    Incidently all cover art work is don by Michael Whelan.
    
    
                                      L.J.

I read Gate of Ivrel many moons ago (in fact, probably many BLUE moons
ago). I was under the impression that the books could stand alone, and
that there wasn't any particular `order' in which they should be read.
Is this true?

Mike JN

    I think one of the things I liked best about the series was the
    way in which the two main characters changed individually and in
    their relationship with each other over the four books. Reading
    them in the order as listed in .6 shows this evolution. As I remember
    the plots, they could be read in any order without *too* much confusion
    though there would be some better foreshadowing of a certain villain 
    and some plot elements if read in the correct order.
    
    Cheers,
    	George
    
    

    BTW- there are two graphic novels of the first book called
    "Gate of Ivrel: Claiming Rites" and "Gate of Ivrel: Fever Dreams"
    illustrated by Jane Fancher with the express consent from, advice 
    of and foreward by CJ Cherryh.
    
	Claiming Rites
        Starblaze Graphics of the Donning Company 1987 ISBN 0-89865-515-3
    
    	Fever Dreams (same company, but I can't find it just now for
    the ISBN number)
    
    Cheers,
    	George
    

    re.-1
    
    
    Did you have to order :Fever Dreams? I just picked up :Claiming Rites
    after reading the Gate of Ivrel, but I can't find :Fever Dreams. Are
    there any more graphic novels in the works for the series or just those
    two?
    
    
    
    
    Thanks for any info.
    
    Chaos
    

    I picked up Fever Dreams at a shop in Worcester, MA last year.
    
    I don't remember if any more works were planned.
    
    Cheers,
    	George

    
    re:.6
    
    "The titles of the books are: Gates of Ivrel, Well of Shiuan, Fires of
    Azeroth and of coarse, Exiles Gate."
    
    I think the first three books have been collected into one volume
    called the "Chronicles of Morgaine".  It is this book and "Exile's
    Gate" that I have seen here (Oz) in bookshops.
    
    David

Cherryh is one of my favorite authors, and this series is some of her best
work, IMHO.  My interest in SF/fantasy is how it handles the human factor,
that is, how the characters grow in response to the situations they are placed
in.  The interplay between Morgaine and Vanye is excellent.  I found them both
to be characters that I could become deeply involved with.  Morgaine, with her
single-mindedness, is one of the strongest female characters I have encountered
in the genre.  Vanye, torn between his oath and his fear, as was mentioned
earlier, is a convincing protrayal of the flawed hero.  An excellent read.

-Patrick

cj excells in strong, believable female protagonists. i think she gets right 
what heinlein tried to do in his work, but never really pulled off. maybe it's 
because he always made his women too perfect. cj's female characters have all 
the fatal flaws of real people, so are perhaps a little easier to believe.

read, also, her chanur series which features a matriarchal, warrier race of 
beings.

question: is cheryhh a nom de plume, or given name? any ideas on derivation? 
gaelic? 

    Re .14:
    
    I have heard, though I don't remember where (this conference?), that
    "Cherryh" is a nom de plume, her real surname simply being "Cherry." 
    This same foggy memory says her agent or publisher thought "Cherry" too
    hard to take seriously, so she added a silent H to satisfy them.
    
    Earl Wajenberg

    Her name is Cherry. Her brother David Cherry is a professional SF and
    Fantasy artist (my girlfriend the artist likes his work). 

    Earl's got it right, at least according to a forward in an edition of
    Downbelow Station that I have.