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Title:Arcana Caelestia
Notice:Directory listings are in topic 2
Moderator:NETRIX::thomas
Created:Thu Dec 08 1983
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1300
Total number of notes:18728

896.0. "Clarke and Benford: "Beyond the Fall of Night"" by DRUMS::FEHSKENS (len, EMA, LKG2-2/W10, DTN 226-7556) Tue Jul 31 1990 19:15

    For all fans of "Against the Fall of Night" and "The City and the
    Stars", note the hardbound arrival of Arthur C. Clarke's collaboration
    with Gregory Benford on "Beyond the Fall of Night".
    
    As far as I can tell (having read this on a transcontinental flight),
    this is a sequel by Benford appended to Clarke's original "Against
    the Fall of Night".  I haven't done a word by word comparison with
    the original, but it sure seemed familiar.  There is no explanation to
    this effect *at all* on the blurb, and in fact one gets the very strong
    (and apparently misleading) impression that this is a real
    collaboration between Clarke and Benford, and not just a new novella by
    Benford glued to an old one by Clarke, published between the same
    covers.
    
    Benford's sequel has its merits, but didn't really add anything to the
    story for me.  There's a certain amount of "Doc Smith" galactic blood
    and thunder, but all the real questions have already been answered
    and the sequel has too much of a "riding on the coattails" quality to
    it.
    
    Is Clarke no longer able to write anything by himself?  Has he
    succumbed to the temptation to live off his reputation for easy money?
    
    Another one to wait out for the paperback edition, and then only if you
    really must.  The best part of this has been available for years.
    
    len.
    
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896.1LUGGER::REDFORDAll isms are wasmsTue Jul 31 1990 21:299
    According to a review I read, the Clarke section really is just a 
    reprint.   The reviewer was also annoyed that this wasn't made 
    more clear, and thought that Benford should be doing new work
    instead of adding unneeded sequels to classics.  
    Clarke has been guilty of serious share-cropping 
    recently, what with the Venus Prime books and Rama II.  Are his 
    expenses getting out of hand?  What with all the civil unrest in 
    Sri Lanka, is he spending it all on guards and alarms? :-)
    /jlr
896.2See also Topic 810WRKSYS::KLAESAll the Universe, or nothing!Wed Aug 01 1990 16:302
    	Clarke's two original stories are also discussed in Topic 810.
    
896.3Better as an Independent StoryVERGA::STONEMon Apr 13 1992 16:3516
    After reading both "Against the Fall of Night" and "Beyond the Fall of
    Night," I came away disappointed. AtFoN and BtFoN are basically
    different stories with nothing in common except a couple of characters
    (Alvin, the "hero" of AtFoN makes a cameo appearance in BtFoN.)
    
    The two stories have a very different feel. Much in BtFoN is left
    unexplained or has no rationale in the AtFoN universe. Many of the facts 
    in AtFoN are ignored in BtFoN. For example, the moon was destroyed 
    millennia in AtFoN's past while it's still quite alive and well in BtFoN.
    
    Basically, Benford would have been better off if he had NOT tied his 
    story to Clarke's. With a rework of the beginning and of some of the
    details around the disembodied intelligence called the Mad Mind,
    Benford's BtFoN would have stood quite well on it's own as a totally
    independent universe.