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Title:Arcana Caelestia
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Created:Thu Dec 08 1983
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768.0. "Perry Rhodan novels" by POLAR::LACAILLE (We are the knights who say...NI!) Thu Mar 30 1989 20:35

    
    	It's I_don't_remember_the_title time again.
    
    	Long ago, I used to read a space opera called Perry Rhodan.
    It was translated from a German Sci. Fi Magazine by the same name.
    In the back of these books were interesting short stories, and usually
    ongoing  segments of some book.
    
    	The title I am looking for, was on of the ongoing stories in
    the back of the Perry Rhodan novella. Vagually I remember it to
    be about a man who finds a cave in an asteroid and proceeds to discover
    an underwater civilization living inside this asteroid.
    
    	Thats all I can remember, like I said, it was a long time ago.
    
    Charlie
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768.1hope you find itMLNCSC::CESANIFri Mar 31 1989 06:0311
>        Long ago, I used to read a space opera called Perry Rhodan.
>    It was translated from a German Sci. Fi Magazine by the same name.

good luck
Perry Rhodan is a loooong series of novels around the same characters
starting off with a trip to the moon,discovering technology there and
going on forever and ever  (i lost count of the titles some years ago
but they must be in the hundreds by now)
ciao
giorgio

768.2RUBY::BOYAJIANStarfleet SecurityFri Mar 31 1989 07:1613
    re:.0
    
    I never read any of the serials, but I can try drawing up a
    checklist of the serials that appeared in the PR books.
    
    re:.1
    
    Ace Books stopped publishing the PR paperbacks somewhere in the
    120's. For a brief while, a small press run by Forry Ackerman
    published them in booklet form. The last issue was #136. In Germany,
    the issue count is well over 1000.
    
    --- jerry
768.3MITSFS has too many of 'em...SKETCH::GROSSHuman Factors and much, much more.Fri Mar 31 1989 16:258
    The MIT Science Fiction Society has many hundreds of these things,
    in both German and English.  They're in the MIT Student Center (4th
    floor) at 86 Mass Ave in Cambridge, and their number is (617) 258-5126.
    If you're in the Boston area, stop by.  (But call first, to make
    sure it's open when you get there!)
    
    Merryl
    
768.4I read about one hundred of 'emPOLAR::LACAILLEWe are the knights who say...NI!Fri Mar 31 1989 21:197
    
    	I'm 8 hours from MIT, so I think it might be awhile ;). And
    thanks Jerry if you can find that list....I remember that I read
    one series to the end, but when the one I'm thinking of started
    up, Perry Rhodan started to get hard to find, and then impossible.
    
    Charlie
768.5Perry Rhodan--the Movie!EST::EDECKCosmodemonic Environmental Labs, Inc.Mon Apr 03 1989 12:423
    
    And don't miss the movie, _Mission Stardust_. It's even showing
    up on TV occasionally. 
768.6Geez, and it didn't make the Oscars!POLAR::LACAILLEWe are the knights who say...NI!Mon Apr 03 1989 14:177
    
    And they say the book is better than the movie, but what if the
    book was no good! ;-) Actually I found them pleasantly entertaining.
    No complicated issues or soul searching plots, just good
    sit_down_for_an_hour entertainment.
    
    Charlie
768.7RUBY::BOYAJIANStarfleet SecurityTue Apr 04 1989 04:227
    re:.6
    
    No matter how bad the books get, they will be better than the
    movie. I caught the film on tv about 10 years ago, and it is
    absolutely dreadful.
    
    --- jerry
768.8EST::EDECKCosmodemonic Environmental Labs, Inc.Tue Apr 04 1989 12:557
    
    I read a few dozen of them, some years ago (Titus Moody voice: 
    "Wintahs git long on th' ghoat farhm, ayup!"). There were a couple
    of good bits--Rhodan's conflict with his son and a long discription
    of a planet that had ben nova bombed stand out in my memory.  In
    general, though, they were dissappointing. I thought the books were
    about as good as the film. ;-)
768.9Perry Rhodan - Do you still have questions?POOL::ANUSZCZYKTue May 30 1989 22:246
    If there is still some interest on this topic, I have about 90 of them
    sitting on my bookcase (including some of the german copies I picked up
    while in Munich).  I can look up the titles in the back and post the
    copies.  Send me mail and I will look it up.
    
    Jeff Anuszczyk
768.10And the names are...MEDDLE::ANUSZCZYKTue Jun 13 1989 19:0422
    Sorry it took so long but here it is.
    
    There were a number of stories in the PR series.  Some were published
    under the title "ShockShorts" and included some famous (at least to
    someone) titles such as:
    
         _To Serf Man_    by Coil Kepac
         _Martian Exodus_ by Carleton Grindle
         _Cosmos_         by Dr. Edward E. Smith
        
    I have never personaly heard of any of these people but they were
    multi-part stories that spanned a number of PR novelletes.  I think
    the stories that Charlie is looking for was:
    
          _New Lensman_   by William B. Ellern
    
    This one lasted for about 22 books (pretty long actually) and there
    was discussion of spawning a semi-annual book with the same name.
    I believe Forest Ackerman actually did publish about 12 more "chapters"
    after ACE dropped PR in 1979.  However I don't have them and don't
    think you will be able to find them (they were published by a small
    press for Forest Ackerman who mailed them directly to subscribers).
768.11*I* laughed.STRATA::RUDMANR. I. P., Reductis in Pulvis.Tue Jun 13 1989 20:495
    "..never personally heard of these people.."
                           
    You're joking, I'm sure; you merely forgot the happy face.
                                                       
    						Don
768.12Faces in the windMEDDLE::ANUSZCZYKWed Jun 14 1989 13:4214
    Heavens yes I was only joking.  Being new to notes I sometimes forget
    all of the special things like happy faces.  I rememeber the first
    time I saw it (happy face) ... thought someone had accidentally pressed
    some keys.  However I couldn't imagine any possible way  to get
    that combination. :-)  By the way... is there a dictionary for the
    "in" symbols that people use such as:
    
             ;')  - Person blinking eye with tongue stuck out?
             :-)  - Happy face
             :-(  - Sad face
             ???
    
    Forgive my ignorance but I have been dying to know if I translated
    these correctly.
768.13Could be...POLAR::LACAILLEThere's a madness to my methodWed Jun 14 1989 17:386
>              _New Lensman_   by William B. Ellern
 
    	This isn't the same as the famous Lensman series by...damn, his
    name escapes me at the moment.
    
    Charlie
768.14E.E. Doc SmithCOMET::TIMPSONI C. Therefore I am.Wed Jun 14 1989 18:171
       
768.15RUBY::BOYAJIANProtect! Serve! Run Away!Thu Jun 15 1989 07:476
    re:.13
    
    Yes, it's the same series. Ellern wrote two pastiches of Smith's
    Lensmen series.
    
    --- jerry
768.16Authorized ? StoryDCC::IKETANIThu Jun 15 1989 07:5219
Re .13
>POLAR::LACAILLE "There's a madness to my method"      6 lines  14-JUN-1989 13:38
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>                                -< Could be... >-
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>>              _New Lensman_   by William B. Ellern
> 
>        This isn't the same as the famous Lensman series by...damn, his
>    name escapes me at the moment.
>    
>    Charlie
>

	"New Lensman" was set in the EE "Doc" Smith Lensman universe, but
was written by Ellern.  I think it was an "Authorized" story, but I'm not
sure.  Does anyone know if Ellern was also the author of the "other" 
"Officially Authorized" Lensman novels?  "Dragon Lensman" and so forth?

dtodd
768.17RUBY::BOYAJIANProtect! Serve! Run Away!Thu Jun 15 1989 11:5816
    re:.16
    
    Yes, Ellern was authorized to write in the Lensmen universe. His
    first Lensman pastiche, a novelette called "Moon Prospector",
    published in ANALOG back in 1966, carried a note of authorization
    by Smith before he died.
    
    "Moon Prospector" was incorporated into one of Ellern's two Lensman
    novels, but I don't off-hand recall which one. Oh, and I believe
    I can recall now what the other title was -- TRIPLANETARY AGENT.
    
    The other authorized Lensman novels were not by Ellern, but by
    David Kyle. Opinions of both Ellern's and Kyle's pastiches vary
    widely.
    
    --- jerry
768.18Still published across the pond ?38AUTO::LILAKWho IS John Galt ?Wed Jul 08 1992 00:0911
Does anyone know of a bookstore in the U.S (not a museum) that might import 
some of the German editions, which I assume are still in print ?

Yeah, I know it's not 'the best sci-fi' but I have a lot of pleasant memories
of reading the old series as a young lad. I'm curious where they took some of 
the concepts.


		trying hard _not_ to be a Druuf 

768.19MILKWY::ED_ECKRambo Among the RosesMon Jul 13 1992 20:456
    
    There's a group on the USENET for Perry Rhodan fans:
    
    		de.alt.fan.perry-rhodan
    
    Thus far all the entries (3 or 4) are in German.
768.20de = DeutschlandFRSMIC::BALZERChristian Balzer DTN:785-1029Fri Jan 29 1993 13:3612
Re .19
    
>	de.alt.fan.perry-rhodan
>    
>    Thus far all the entries (3 or 4) are in German.

Which isn't that surprising, since all the de.* groups are German. ;-)
The pace in de.a.f.p-r is still pretty slow, about 10 articles a week.

Cheers,

<CB>
768.217914::ED_ECKDendrites never sleep!Mon Feb 01 1993 12:549
    
    Which reminds me..._Operation Stardust_ is on the late/early
    movie this week (in the Boston area). It actually seems to
    show up semi-often lately, maybe every 2 or 3 months, so I
    have a feeling it's part of some package of movies that the
    stations can buy ("Yes, you _have_ to take THIS ONE, too!").
    
    (And Delia Thorzine or whatever her name is still looks pretty
    good--just like I pictured her!)