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Title:Arcana Caelestia
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761.0. "Lovecraft's Supernatural Horror in Literature" by LEZAH::BOBBITT (invictus maneo) Tue Mar 21 1989 18:07

    I'm looking for an essay by HP Lovecraft called "Supernatural Horror
    in Literature"...  If anyone has a copy of it, I'd love to see 
    it, as a friend of mine is researching a paper on "horror" and has
    been having difficulty tracking it down.
    
    Thanks,
    
    Jody Bobbitt
    e-mail  LEZAH::BOBBITT
    mailstop  MR01-3/L12
    
    
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761.1availableLESCOM::KALLISAnger's no replacement for reason.Tue Mar 21 1989 18:1811
    Re .0 (Jody):
    
    It's been reorinted as a slender book by Dover Press, Inc.
    
    It also asppeared in several collections of his stories.  I believe
    the British version of _Dagon_ contains it.
    
    Steve Kallis, Jr.
    
    
  
761.2found it!LEZAH::BOBBITTinvictus maneoThu Mar 23 1989 17:134
    Thank you for the input, I found a copy in a local library.
    
    -Jody
    
761.3Someone refresh my memory, please!SWAPIT::LAMFri Jun 08 1990 14:5410
761.4h.p. ramblingsSSAG::WHERRYLions and Tigers and BearsMon Jun 11 1990 22:0227
    
    Ex Ignorantia ad sapientiam; e luce ad tenebras.
    
    random stuff:
    
    spellings: Cthulhu (there are two node names with aprox. spellings.)
               Shub-Nigaruth
               Cthonian
               Al Azif (my node name!)
               Arkham (yet another node name)
               R'lyeh (I may be misspelling this one.)
    
    movies:  The Dunwich Horror  (really good B-film)
             Reanimator          (VERY FUNNY splatter flick)
             From Beyond         (based on pickman's model if I recall,
                                  gore again same prod. group as _Reanimator_)
    
    I have a bunch of books at home, I'll add the titles this evening.
    I do know there are two publishers still publishing his works:
    Arkham House (good luck finding books from this publisher.)
    DELL-REY has released many of his short stories in trade paperback 
    format.
    
    I think there is also a 'zine as well.  Anybody know who is publishing
    the zine?
    
    brad
761.5books that go bump in the nightSSAG::WHERRYLions and Tigers and BearsTue Jun 12 1990 03:3640
    
    books:
    
    I don't have any of the collections published by arkham house.  anybody
    care to post their address?  They would be a good source for works by
    H.P. Lovecraft as well as by other authors (Robert Bloch, August Derleth
    founder of arkham house) who wrote in the mythos.  Also, if you are
    fortunate enough to have some OLD copies of Weird Tales (my favorite
    magazine) then you might find some of his shorts or novellas, like
    "The Case of Charles Dexter Ward."
    
    Del Rey
    	_The_Dream-Quest_Of_Unkown_Kadath_
    		ISBN 0-345-30233-8
    	_The_Lurking_Fear_
    		ISBN 0-345-32604-0
    	_At_The_Mountains_Of_Madness_
    		ISBN 0-345-32945-7
    	_The_Tomb_
    		ISBN 0-345-30230-3
    	_The_Case_Of_Charles_Dexter_Ward_
    		ISBN 0-345-30234-6
    	_The_Doom_That_Came_To_Sarnath_
    		ISBN 0-345-33105-2
    
    Baen Books
    	_Cthulhu_ "The Mythos and Kindred Horrors"
    		ISBN 0-671-65641-4
    
    Carroll & Graf Publishers, Inc.
    	_The_Lurker_At_The_Threshold_
    		ISBN 0-88184-408-X
    
    In a similar vein (okay, okay so maybe its a hoax...maybe not :-)
    
    Avon Books
    	_Necronomicon_ or Al Azif by Abdul Alhazred
    		ISBN 0-380-75192-5
    
    
761.6RUBY::BOYAJIANA Legendary AdventurerTue Jun 12 1990 05:1319
    re:.4
    
    FROM BEYOND is not based on "Pickman's Model", but another story
    called "From Beyond" (a rather obscure story). RE-ANIMATOR was
    based on a slightly less obscure story called "Herbert West --
    Reanimator". There are also a couple of other films based on
    Lovecraft stories.
    
    For Lovecraft's work itself, getting the Arkham House books won't
    do you much good if you already have the Ballantine/Del Rey volumes.
    However, there are a number of anthologies that Arkham has published
    that have not appeared in paperback. If you have a science fiction
    specialty bookstore in your area, you can quite probably get Arkham
    House books.
    
    There are a few zines around dealing with Lovecraft and the Mythos.
    One I can think of off-hand is called CRYPT OF CTHULHU.
    
    --- jerry
761.7Inquiring minds want to know!LUDWIG::PHILLIPSMusic of the spheres.Tue Jun 12 1990 12:4811
    A query from a rank amateur:
    
    Just how the deuce do you pronounce "Cthulthu" anyway?  I've never
    been able to find out......
    
    						--Eric--
    
    P.S. (Seen on a button at a SF convention:)
    
    "Cthulthu for President - when you're tired of choosing the lesser
    of two evils."        ;^)
761.8Just as it standsMINAR::BISHOPTue Jun 12 1990 15:3510
    re .7, pronunciation of "Cthulthu"?
    
    The "C" is hard, like a "k".
    
    Otherwise, it's just as it's spelled.
    
    The so-called Necronomicon in the bookstores is not the real one, nor
    anything like what readers of the Mythos have been told it was.
    
    			-John Bishop
761.9Herbert West returnsMILKWY::MLOEWEBass fishermen have stiffer rodsWed Jun 13 1990 16:2614
    

>    FROM BEYOND is not based on "Pickman's Model", but another story
>    called "From Beyond" (a rather obscure story). RE-ANIMATOR was
>    based on a slightly less obscure story called "Herbert West --
>    Reanimator". There are also a couple of other films based on
>    Lovecraft stories.
    
Jerry,

I heard there is going to be a "RE-ANIMATOR II" movie forthcoming.  Have you
heard the samething, if so, will H.P. Lovecraft have a hand in it?

Mike_L
761.10Who is that skeleton in the closet?NABETH::alanIf you lose control they take away your tee-shirt.Wed Jun 13 1990 18:113
	re: .9

	Perhaps as an extra?
761.11Bring-out yer dead!SWAPIT::LAMWed Jun 13 1990 19:366
761.12RUBY::BOYAJIANA Legendary AdventurerThu Jun 14 1990 01:324
    There is a sequel, reportedly called BRIDE OF REANIMATOR (I'm not
    kidding), but I doubt very much if it's based on a Lovecraft story.
    
    --- jerry
761.13REANIMATORSSAG::WHERRYLions and Tigers and BearsThu Jun 14 1990 05:259
    
    in an interview with the production company that did REANIMATOR
    and FROM BEYOND they stated they were looking for humour as much as
    gore/shock value.  IMO, I thought a lot of the humour came *from
    their use of gore*....I mean just imagine this head....well never
    mind imagining, rent the film.  A word of Warning, REANIMATOR while
    humourous is not for the faint of heart or spirit, or morals, or...
    
    brad
761.14RUBY::BOYAJIANA Legendary AdventurerThu Jun 14 1990 06:509
    I agree with Brad. REANIMATOR is funny *because* the gore goes
    over the top. It just gets so excessive, you have to laugh.
    
    By the by, regarding the mention of "Pickman's Model", while there
    are no films based on it, it *was* adapted for an episode of ROD
    SERLING'S NIGHT GALLERY back about 20 years ago, as well as another
    Lovecraft story, "Cool Air".
    
    --- jerry
761.15Kind of a prop....WHELIN::TASCHEREAUSame source, different debugger.Thu Jun 14 1990 12:256
    
    Re: .10, .11, .12
    
    Note .9 didn't wonder if H.P.L. was going to be involved with the
    film, it asked if he'd have a 'hand' in it. Now, if they were to
    dig old H.P. up, and snap it off at the wrist... 8^O
761.16VULCAN::SMITHP1mumble mumble orangeMon Jun 25 1990 14:2118
	The Necronomicon is an interesting read....The first half details
	how attempts were made to crack the code left by John Dee in his
	manuscripts. After numerous systems failed the cipher was eventually
	revealed, and of course, the contents form the second half with
	all the usual prose re. Cthulhu, Nyarlathotep, Yog-Sothoth, etc etc.,
	plus magic rituals for summoning the aforementioned entities.
	Recommended to all H.P.L. affectionados....

	Also...do not forget Clark Ashton Smith, who took some of Lovecraft's
	ideas and created some fascinating stories, inventing some of his
	own 'Old Ones', the most famous being Tsathoggua, the Black Toad 
	God.

	Has anyone read Hazel Heald's short story 'Horror in the Museum' ?
	Surely the 'Cthulhu Mythos' at its best !!!

		p1	
761.17PFLOYD::ROTHBERGI want my license back!!!Thu Jun 28 1990 08:5913
                
                I  don't    recall    the    Necronomicon   being
                Lovecraft...
                
                I have it  myself, but I never really noticed.  I
                don't recall it even  having  an author mentioned
                except the 'Mad Arab'.
                
                Hmmm...  I'm half asleep  anyway, I'm not used to
                this 3rd shift stuff...
                
                
761.18RUBY::BOYAJIANA Legendary AdventurerThu Jun 28 1990 13:128
    Well, the Necronomicon is really non-existent. There are a few
    different books that have been published as the Necronomicon
    that are basically gags. The author of the Necronomicon is the
    Mad Arab Abdul Alhazred, and the actual title of the book is
    "Al Azif" (Necronomicon is the title of the Greek translation).
    Lovecraft "invented" the book as part of the Cthulhu Mythos.
    
    --- jerry
761.19It's been around a bit...HPSCAD::WALLNo bargain, reason, pity, or remorseThu Jun 28 1990 13:304
    
    And F. Paul Wilson borrowed it for the library of The Keep.
    
    DFW
761.20Lovecraft Centennial ConferenceTLE::AMARTINAlan H. MartinWed Jul 25 1990 22:2034
761.21NecronomiCON: The Cthulhu Mythos ConventionTLE::AMARTINAlan H. MartinWed Nov 04 1992 22:0426
From:	ERIS::CALLAS "What if there were no hypothetical questions?  04-Nov-1992 1057"    4-NOV-1992 11:08:42.21
To:	<that would be telling>
Subj:	NecronomiCON -- The Cthulhu Mythos Convention (Danvers, MA)

From:	DECWRL::"0003678587@mcimail.com" "Patty A. Hardy" 4 November '92 1:56 am
To:	Jon Callas <eris::callas>
Subj:	Cthulhu Mythos Convention - Aug 20-22, 1993 - Massachusetts

I received this flyer enclosed with my copy of the latest Necronomicon
Press catalog. Necronomicon Press is a small publisher of Lovecraftiana
in Rhode Island.

The Cthulhu Mythos Convention
NecronomiCON
August 20-22, 1993
Danvers, Massachusetts
at the Sheraton Tara Hotel & Resort at Ferncroft Village
Special Guest of Honor: Robert Bloch
Artist Guest of Honor: Gahan Wilson
Celebrating H.P. Lovecraft and the Cthulhu Mythos
in all its forms.

For information please send a SASE to:
NecronomiCON
P.O. Box 1320, Back Bay Annex
Boston, MA 02117-1320
761.22ReviewsVERGA::KLAESQuo vadimus?Tue Aug 17 1993 16:30106
Article: 328
From: dani@netcom.com (Dani Zweig)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.reviews
Subject: REPOST: Belated Reviews #9: H. P. Lovecraft
Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest)
Date: 14 Aug 93 04:44:22 GMT
 
		Belated Reviews #9:  H. P. Lovecraft
 
Lovecraft's writing, from 1917 to 1937, is on the boundary between fantasy 
and horror.  It's a peculiarly intellectual kind of horror, for the most 
part -- the horror of people who learn that the universe in which they live 
is far less sane than they thought.  Lovecraft's world is one that doesn't 
know that it's under siege, that utterly alien beings are just a reality 
away -- sometimes inimical, sometimes indifferent but still capable of being
misguidedly invited in.  It's a world where people who seek out forbidden 
knowledge are broken by it, not because it's evil or corruptive, but because
it was never meant for human beings.  This is horror in the older tradition,
in which we are less likely to be see people being turned into snacks than
to hear the story from the person who found the bones.
 
Most of Lovecraft's work -- short stories, mostly -- is still in print.  
The stories generally stand alone, although many of them share plot elements
and backgrounds.  The common elements and backgrounds for much of his work 
are known collectively as the Cthulhu mythos.  The name is misleading -- 
Cthulhu is the subject of just one of his stories, neither the best of his 
stories nor the most impressive of his subjects -- but it has stuck, and 
we're pretty much stuck with it.  It's not entirely inappropriate, as the 
story is one of the horrific and unknown impinging almost unnoticed upon our 
world.
 
Lovecraft is another author whose writing you owe it to yourself to try.
You may not care for it -- some do, some don't -- but you won't know
unless you try.  You can't judge on the basis of other, similar, authors,
because there *are* no similar authors, though there are many authors
whose work reflects his influence.  (That said, a word of warning is in
place:  There are a good number of books on the shelves that say "Lovecraft"
in large print, but acknowledge themselves -- in finer print -- to have been
'completed' or 'coauthored' after his death, most often by August Derleth.
They are inferior pastiches.)
 
The stories (***).  Collections of Lovecraft's stories are readily
available, new or used, in paperback.  Stories such as "The Dunwich Horror",
in which a mad bargain with a creature from Beyond becomes, decades later, 
a matter of very public concern.  This story was made into a weak movie which,
among things, misdelivered the punchline.  Stories such as "Pickman's Model",
a story more cute than horrific, about an artist who paints unreasonably 
realistic-looking monsters.  Or such as the eponymous "The Call of Cthulhu".
Lovecraft's earlier stories contain many of the same plot elements, but are 
closer to fantasy.  They are meant to evoke wonder, rather than horror.  The 
best of these may be "The Dream Quest of Unknown Kadath".
 
Lovecraft was mainly a short-story writer.  He left some poetry which is of 
limited interest to those who are not devoted Lovecraftians.  And he left two
short novels.  "At the Mountains of Madness" (**+) is a longer Cthulhoid tale
about an expedition which goes looking for the unknown -- and is far more 
successful than it would wish.  "The Case of Charles Dexter Ward" (**) is 
horror -- about a man who discovers the secret of necromancy and uses it 
badly -- but it's not related to the bulk of his work.
 
%A  Lovecraft, H. P.
%B  The Dunwich Horror
%O  Anthology includes "The Dunwich Horror" and "Pickman's Model"
%B  The Colour Out of Space
%O  Anthology includes "The Call of Cthulhu"
%B  The Dream-Quest of Unknown Kadath
%O  Anthology includes the novella "The Dream-Quest of Unknown Kadath"
%B  At the Mountains of Madness
%O  Anthology includes the novella "At the Mountains of Madness" 
%T  The Case of Charles Dexter Ward
%O  These five books represent a large sample of Lovecraft's best output.
%O  Lovecraft's printing history being what it is, all his stories
%O  can be found in different collections and formats, as well.
 
Standard introduction and disclaimer for Belated Reviews follows.

Belated Reviews cover science fiction and fantasy of earlier decades.
They're for newer readers who have wondered about the older titles on the
shelves, or who are interested in what sf/f was like in its younger days.
The emphasis is on helping interested readers identify books to try first, 
not on discussing the books in depth.
 
A general caveat is in order:  Most of the classics of yesteryear have not
aged well.  If you didn't encounter them back when, or in your early teens,
they will probably not give you the unforced pleasure they gave their
original audiences.  You may find yourself having to make allowances for
writing you consider shallow or politics you consider regressive.  When I
name specific titles, I'll often rate them using the following scale:
 
**** Recommended.
***  An old favorite that hasn't aged well, and wouldn't get a good
	reception if it were written today.  Enjoyable on its own terms.
**   A solid book, worth reading if you like the author's works.
*    Nothing special.
 
Additional disclaimers:  Authors are not chosen for review in any particular
order.  The reviews don't attempt to be comprehensive.  No distinction is 
made between books which are still in print and books which are not.
 
-----
Dani Zweig
dani@netcom.com
 
  Watership Down:  
  You've read the book.  You've seen the movie.  Now eat the stew!