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Title:Arcana Caelestia
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Created:Thu Dec 08 1983
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
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426.0. "RQ #3, Better Living through Chemistry" by ROCK::REDFORD (On a pure caffeine high) Sat Jan 03 1987 22:02

Twenty five years ago, a drug was introduced that had effects that 
were more far-ranging than any SF author would have predicted.
It caused a permanent change in human relations, a change that is 
still rippling outwards.  Almost no area of life has been unaffected: 
the home, politics, business, even religion and the military.
It has caused a fundamental moral shift and obsoleted a lot of old 
values. 

Time to stop being coy; I'm talking about the Pill.  It let one half
of the human race have the freedom of sex without risk that the other
half had always enjoyed.  It gave women control of their lives during
their twenties and thirties, permitting them to have careers without
resorting to celibacy or abortion.  It changed chastity from a major
to a minor virtue, just as a gluttony has become a minor vice. It was
not an isolated invention, of course; there are now a dozen means of
contraception of varying convenience and safety.  But it was an
outgrowth of modern biology, of a scientific understanding that we've
only had in this century. 

So, as Theodore Sturgeon would say, ask the next question!  If we now 
have drugs to control the (ahem) side-effects of sex, what about ones 
that control sexual desire itself?  Enhance it?  Suppress it?  
Redirect it?

Here's one thought: a monogamy drug.  Somewhere there's a mechanism 
that determines what is sexually attractive.  Somewhere there's also 
the control for that mechanism, something that sets it up initially.
This drug goes in and fools with the control.  Just as a baby duck 
can be imprinted with one thing that it will consider its mother, 
this drug will imprint a person with one sexual ideal - his or her spouse.
A biochemical chastity belt!  Newlyweds would exchange pills along 
with their vows.  Jealousy would become obsolete!  "Thou shalt not 
covet thy neighbor's wife" can be removed from the Ten Commandments.
A refusal to take the pill could be a new cause for divorce.  Those 
with romantic inclinations could take the drug all the time, and fall 
in love with every stranger they meet.

That's one possibility. Others?  Ramifications?

/jlr
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426.1Asking the wrong questionsANT::JANZENTom LMO2/O23 296-5421 Mon Jan 05 1987 11:374
Jealousy is not an aspect of the partner being attracted to others; it is
an aspect of the personality of the jealous.  Therefore, a love potion would
not affect it.
Tom
426.2Divorce PillsPROSE::WAJENBERGMon Jan 05 1987 14:5625
    Well, it might alieviate the jealousy by giving the potentially
    jealous partner the firm knowledge that the spouse CAN'T wander.
    
    This monogamy pill sounds a lot like the good ol' love potion of
    fantasy, at least in some of its versions, like the one in "Midsummer
    Night's Dream."  That one could be used more than once (as Puck
    did to the human characters) or simply cancelled (as Oberon did
    to Titania).  A reusable or erasable "monogamy" pill might therefore
    not result in permanent monogamy.  There could be a corresponding
    "divorce pill" that would erase the imprinting.  I can see the TV
    ad now:
    
    	"O God, she left me!  I'm so miserable without her!"
    
    	"Try Foreign Legion (tm), the deprinting pill guaranteed to
    	 make you forget that callous lover."
    
    Slipping these pills into people's drinks would be a new kind of
    crime, though I suppose it has some precedent in things like slipping
    people LSD.
    
    If the monogamy pill is NOT erasable, the whole situation becomes
    much more serious and I would be inclined to ban them.
    
    Earl Wajenberg
426.3Yech!YODA::BARANSKILaugh when you feel like Crying!Tue Jan 06 1987 18:074
Somehow, at the present point of time, the idea of .0 strikes me as horribly
grotesque/disgesting/dehumanizing/*....

Jim.
426.4Marital Moksha (tm)CGHUB::CONNELLYEye Dr3 - Regnad KcinThu Jan 08 1987 01:246
re: .3
>Somehow, at the present point of time, the idea of .0 strikes me as horribly
>grotesque/disgesting/dehumanizing/*....

...in short, worthy of Aldous Huxley's "Brave New World", right? ;-)

426.5Other potentialsVACCIN::ROUTLEYThu Jan 08 1987 21:1716
from .0:
>So, as Theodore Sturgeon would say, ask the next question!  If we now 
>have drugs to control the (ahem) side-effects of sex, what about ones 
>that control sexual desire itself?  Enhance it?  Suppress it?  
>Redirect it?
...
>That's one possibility. Others?  Ramifications?

I read a story somewhere ( I think I have in _the_Omnibus_of_Science_Fiction, or
something like that) where a big-league scientist came up with a substance. He
had intended to create a regular sexual cylce in women to prevent their use of
"sexual attractiveness" to control men.  However, it backfired, producing a 
regular sex cycle in _men_.

I'll see if I can find the title. Guesses, anyone?
kevin
426.6RDGENG::LESLIECall me `{o}^{o}'Sat Jan 10 1987 04:031
    Nit-picking, the pill is hormonal, not a drug as such.
426.7INK::KALLISSupport Hallowe'enTue Jan 13 1987 16:4810
    Re .5:
    
    It was Theodore Sturgeon's story: I read it as "Never Underestimate
    ..." which was a takeoff on the old _Ladies' Home Journal_ cartoon_ad-
    vertisement, which had as its theme "Never underestimate the power
    of a woman."  Supposedly, he included his chemical secretly in a
    thermonuclear test in the Pacific, which neatly dates the story.
    
    Steve Kallis, Jr.
    
426.8Worse living through lawyersLDP::GAYTue Feb 03 1987 20:4330
    Sometimes the real world is as interesting as fiction.
    
    Reliable contraception gave women control over having children.
    This caused all sorts of pressure for having casual sex, without
    a corresponding info blitz on how to use contraception (so
    birth control causes more births!!! particularly among teens who
    are too embarassed to deal with the subject till too late).
    
    It also caused an epidemic of VD and now is helping spread AIDS.
    In the mean time, most of the major contraceptive methods turn out
    to be less than perfect, and in this era of a lawer on each hip,
    the drug companies (hormone companies?) start to drop the pill,
    the IUD, spermacidal creams, ...
    
    Research money for contraceptives is drying up in the U.S. No new
    contraceptive methods are being produced in the U.S. (full steam
    ahead in Europe tho - different legal procedures I guess).
    
    In short, back to diaphragms and condoms (both of which are so 
    clumsy that they don't get used as much as they could).
    
    So, it looks like the era of casual sex is soon to be over.
    
    BUT WAIT.  To combat the rise in teen pregnancy, high schools are
    starting to provide contraceptives and/or info.  Soon there will
    be a whole new generation starting the cycle over.  Well, I guess
    I'll grab a book while I am waiting.
    
    A detoxified SF junkie (but hand me a book and I'll fall off the wagon)
    Erg
426.9low techARMORY::CHARBONNDShakin' the bush, bossFri Feb 06 1987 14:145
     >(CONTRACEPTION) is helping spread AIDS. 
    
    True, but the BIG culprit is K-Y jelly. :-)
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426.10Institutional AphrodisiaNY1MM::BOWERSDave BowersMon Feb 09 1987 18:3813
    The question of drugs to trigger or enhance sexual desire brought
    back a memory of a really old SF story (I read it at least 25 years
    ago).
    
    The story was set in the context of a prolonged WW III where
    inter-service rivalries were threatening to upset the entire war
    effort.  The remedy inter-service sex (the term used, I recall was
    "dighting" or the verb "to dight", author's attemt to come up with
    a non-Anglo-Saxan transitive verb).  The members of the various
    military services disliked each other so strongly that drugs were
    required to permit them to "dight" successfully.
    
    Anyone remember the story or the author?
426.11How Redightful!ERASER::KALLISHallowe'en should be legal holidayMon Feb 23 1987 14:129
    Re .10:
    
    "Dight," FYI, is an old English word, popular in the Middle Ages,
    for copulation.  If the author's rationale was _not_ to find an
    Anglo-Saxon word for the act, he or she received a self-inflicted
    shot in the foot.
    
    Steve Kallis, Jr.
    
426.12 That's dightful!BMT::BOWERSDave BowersTue Mar 03 1987 20:195
	Re .10;
    
    Thnks for the FYI, Steve.  The author's rationale was mainly to
    find a transitive verb that wouldn't immediately trigger the censor's
    blue pencil.
426.13Trivia...DROID::DAUGHANRedundant,a. See Redundant.Wed Mar 04 1987 01:534
    Did you know Censor Blue is a new Crayola crayon?  It came out 
    right after Urine Yellow.

    				The Iceman
426.14possible referenceSWORD::SHARPDon Sharp, Digital TelecommunicationsFri Mar 13 1987 17:557
I remember the story pretty well, considering I haven't read it in years. it
was told in the form of a psychiatric interview between a non-com who had an
assignation scheduled and a robot psychiatrist which was only
semi-functional. I beleive it was in Galaxy #5 or therabouts, and I think
the author was Theodore Sturgeon.

Don.
426.15I'll look...IRT::BOWERSDave BowersFri Mar 13 1987 19:343
    Thanks for the reference.  I may even have a copy of Galaxy #5 around.
     I'll take a look.  Sturgeon is certainly a plausible possibility
    for the author.