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Title:Arcana Caelestia
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Created:Thu Dec 08 1983
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
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337.0. "Bester's The Stars My Destination" by STUBBI::REINKE () Tue May 27 1986 18:41

    TSMD was the very first Science Fiction I ever read - probably in
    the 1959 anthology. It got me hooked on the genre back in my teens
    and I have reread it many times. I don't think I've liked anything
    else of Bester's that I've read, especially Golem100 which was
    absolutely AWFUL.                ----------
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337.1GoofSTUBBI::REINKETue May 27 1986 18:451
    Sorry this was supposed to be an answer to #327 on Bester.
337.2However...INK::KALLISTue May 27 1986 18:4715
    First, a clarification:  I _Like_ _The Stars My Destination_ very
    much.
    
    However, having said that, science-fiction it ain't.  A good and
    rather powerful story; however, it has things that are scientific
    absurdities, such as rubble following in Gully Foyle's "wake" when
    he was stranded in space, and the "Burning Man" burning _in a vacuum_.
    
    Sorry, a good story, but a fantasy.
    
    You want something closer to SF from Bester, try _The Demolished
    Man_.
    
    Steve Kallis, Jr.
    
337.3ans to 337.2STUBBI::REINKEMon Jun 09 1986 21:134
    Agreed - however, I was about 16 when I first read it. I thought
    it was a great story and wasn't particularly aware of the
    non-scientific parts at the time. It did get me interested in SF
    as a genre, scientific goofs or not.
337.48^)EDEN::KLAESIt obstructs my view of Venus!Wed Jun 11 1986 22:112
    	Wouldn't it be ironic if Bester lived in Worcester?
    
337.5"Tenser said the Tensor"TROLL::RUDMANTue Jun 17 1986 04:355
    Y'know, Mr. Kallis, it is surprising that so few (it seems) have
    read THE DEMOLISHED MAN.  I believe I cut some of my SF teeth on
    that one.  Some of the best can still be found in the book swaps.
    
    						Don
337.6in praise of "The Demolished Man"PROSE::WAJENBERGTue Jun 17 1986 12:357
    I like "The Demolished Man" very much.  I was tickled by the idea
    of blocking a telepath with a "mindscreen" consisting of an inane
    jingle you can't get out of your head, and I thought the society
    depicted was very convincing.  Of course, I read it several years
    ago -- I might see more holes now.
    
    Earl Wajenberg
337.7I also liked TSMD -- see aboveSUPER::KENAHOn a Blue JaunteTue Jun 17 1986 17:3520
    < re: Note 337.5 by TROLL::RUDMAN >
    
    >  Y'know, Mr. Kallis, it is surprising that so few (it seems) have
    >  read THE DEMOLISHED MAN.  I believe I cut some of my SF teeth on
    >  that one.  Some of the best can still be found in the book swaps.
    
    Not all that surprising... when I first got interested in SF, one
    of the collections I bought was "The Hugo Winners", edited by Isaac
    Asimov.  This collection listed Hugo winning works from 1953 onward.
    
    "The Demolished Man" won the Hugo for Best Novel in 1953.  "Fine,"
    I said, "I'll go out and buy me a copy of TDM." No way. It was out
    of print.  I tried the swap shops. Nope, it had been out of print
    for a LONG time.  They finally re-released it about six years after
    I first learned about it.  
    
    So it doesn't surprise me that many haven't read TDM -- it's hard
    to read a book you can't find.
    
    					andrew
337.8???.4TWEED::REINKEWed Jun 18 1986 20:543
    .4 please explain???? (this is from Stubbi::Reinke but Stubbi is
    sick today)
    
337.9WARNING!! WARNING!! PUN OLIVER::OSBORNEJohn D. OsborneThu Jun 19 1986 17:369
re: Note 337.8 

>    .4 please explain????
    
It's a pun. (and a rather dreadful one at that)
Consider that Wocester is sometimes, especially around here, pronounced
Worst-er. (or WOO-ster, or War-chest-ter, or WATCH-ster...)

JO
337.10punishmentSTUBBI::REINKEThu Jun 19 1986 20:191
    BESTER-WOO-ster.......................aaaaaaargh!!!!sorry I asked!
337.11Eight, Sir!TROLL::RUDMANThu Jul 17 1986 03:327
    Re. .7:  You've got my curiosity up.  My copies are from the mid-/late
    sixties (no pub. date).  Assuming a re-release in the '70s, you
    started S F ~1970?  Anyway, I think it'll hold up, even  after 33
    years.  Maybe you're not frequenting the right stores.  Have you
    tried The Book Bear and The Shire?
    
    							Don
337.12MORE PUNISHMENT!EDEN::KLAESIt's only a model!Thu Aug 14 1986 18:374
    	It would appear that Mr. Reinke has become a demolished man!
    
    	:^)
    
337.13No, I'm not from Worcester.TROLL::RUDMANThu Aug 14 1986 21:558
    I'm sure you were kidding with the pronunciation.  Commercials have
    been messing up for years.
    
    To set the record straight (remember the last time you read *that*
    phrase in here? :-)) Worcester is pronounced like the Woo in Wookie
    or would--Wou-ster.   Barbarians.
                      
    						Don
337.14I lived in Worcester once...HECTOR::RICHARDSONFri Aug 15 1986 17:011
    And Leicester is pronounced "Lester", while you're out at.
337.15Mr.??STUBBI::REINKEFri Aug 15 1986 23:135
    re .12
    'smile when you say that....
    I was a woman last time I checked
    Have your kept up with reading intros? try 122.37
    :-)
337.16probable cause of confusion:CGHUB::CONNELLYEye Dr3 - Regnad KcinSat Aug 16 1986 01:125
> < Note 337.15 by STUBBI::REINKE >
...
>    I was a woman last time I checked

Don used to go by that node-address!  (hi, Don)
337.17re names confusionSTUBBI::REINKESat Aug 16 1986 01:224
    Yeah - I know - things have been a little better since he moved
    to Tweed, but we still get each other's mail
    He says hi back - are you Paul Connelly?
    Bonnie
337.18NEW TYPE OF SEX CHANGE OPERATION?EDEN::KLAESAvoid a granfalloon.Mon Aug 18 1986 15:145
    	Obviously you were such a demolished man that you turned into
    a woman.  Amazing!
    
    	:^)
    
337.19Does anyone know where I can get a copy?ANNECY::BOURDILLONCats are the next step in evolutionThu Mar 31 1994 08:506
Copy of The Stars My Destination, that is.

Any help would be very gratefully received


Ben