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Title:Arcana Caelestia
Notice:Directory listings are in topic 2
Moderator:NETRIX::thomas
Created:Thu Dec 08 1983
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1300
Total number of notes:18728

174.0. "DAMNATION ALLEY" by USWAV1::HYATT () Tue Feb 05 1985 17:02

	I caught the tail end of a TV ad about the movie Damnation Alley
being on the tube soon. Is this based on Zelazny's short story / novel,
or does it just have the same name?  Also, if it is from the big "Z" do
you know when it will be on TV ???
		
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174.1BARNUM::JWALTONTue Feb 05 1985 18:258
	  Television is the life of the masses.


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174.2AKOV68::BOYAJIANWed Feb 06 1985 05:3510
RE:.0

Yes, the movie is indeed based on Zelazny's book, but like most Hollywood
productions, they've totally adulterated the story in the process. The
film is, at best, OK, but don't expect to see Zelazny's novel on the screen.

It's a relatively old film (1977), and I'm sure that it's been on tv before.


--- jerry
174.3DAIRY::KRAWIECKIThu Feb 07 1985 19:223
 

It's not even as high as OK . It's like watching Airwolf (YUK !!)
174.4HACKER::FOLEYTue Feb 12 1985 17:3811
	RE: -1 (Jerry)

	Yes, it was on TV about 2 years ago.. It didn't do too well in
	the movies.. I haven't seen it but I did read abot how they
	built the truck-thing they use in it.  Pretty neat truck..

	I think Jan-Michael (Stringefellow Hawke) Vincent is in the movie also..

						mike

	BTW, I'm trying to get back to this file.. It's tough!
174.5NUHAVN::CANTORWed Feb 13 1985 00:354
One of my friends says that the only thing the book and the film have in
common is their title.

Dave C.
174.6AKOV68::BOYAJIANWed Feb 13 1985 04:579
re:.4

Yes, good ol' Jan-Michael is in it, as well as George Peppard.

Incidentally, about the truck --- it appears in a recent Amoco commercial,
the one about the "Road Worrier" (ugh!).


--- jerry
174.7HACKER::FOLEYWed Feb 13 1985 16:1630
RE: .6

	Really??!  I haven't been watching too much T.V. lately (you know why 
	Jerry :-)) so I haven't seen the commercial..  Still, it was a neat
	truck...  I think they used something very similar in some Saturday
	morning show about 5 years ago. The shows on Saturday morning around 
	that time had alot of "real" shows (ie: real actors/actresses) and there
	was one show that had a truck similar to the truck in D.A. I think
	the difference in the trucks was the way the wheels were designed.

	If I remember correctly the truck in D.A. had wheels like this

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	Other than that they were VERY similar... Maybe the D.A. machine was
	made out of metal?  I am VERY sure the Saturday morning show truck
	was made out of fiberglass. It also had a garage in the back for 
	a hover-craft type of vehicle...

							mike
174.8EVER11::EKLOFWed Feb 13 1985 16:246
	The show you're talking about was called "Ark IV", and set in
a post-disaster world.  I think it was more like eight to ten years
ago, though.

=ME=

174.9AKOV68::BOYAJIANThu Feb 14 1985 10:573
It was ARK II, not IV, but you are right on the time. It was on in 1976.

--- jerry
174.10HACKER::FOLEYFri Feb 15 1985 14:255
	Geez.. I must be getting old or something.. it was THAT long ago?
	Wow...

						mike
174.11USWAV1::HYATTMon Feb 18 1985 13:273

	Damnation Alley, tonight (Monday), 8:00 pm, Ch.56, for all it's worth...
174.12RHETT::JELICHTue Feb 19 1985 11:203
for the Atlanta area, this Wednesday, at 8 (or 9, I can't remember).

Beth
174.13USWAV1::HYATTTue Feb 19 1985 13:0512
Well, I should have listened to your advice.  I saw it last night for the 
first time, two words come to mind -- 1) pathetic   2) insulting

	pathetic mutilation of a brilliant plot
	pathetic characterization
	pathetic acting (except for the giant scorpions)
	pathetic waste of my time

	insulting to a great author to see a skillfully depicted
	scenario turned into a saturday morning kiddy show
	insulting to any Zelazny fan as I am.
174.14AUSSIE::UNDERWOODSun Feb 24 1985 10:449
re .13    right on.

The movie was so weak that they didn't even mention Tanner's name "Hell".
They made a first rate anti-hero into an extra.

Incidently, There are two versions of the written story: Short and long.
"Z" himself prefers the first/short one.

Matt
174.15USWAV1::HYATTMon Feb 25 1985 13:497
	Me too, there is a version of the original short in "The Last 
Defender of Camelot", a collection of shorts by "Z".  Very much worth
reading ! There are all kinds of goodies ranging from 2 to 150 pages
long.

Merlin