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Title:TME 10 NetView and related productscts
Notice:Bugs-12; Kits-9; ECOs-20
Moderator:TUXEDO::MINTZLL
Created:Tue Aug 24 1993
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:2257
Total number of notes:7838

2180.0. "PNV4.1C upgrade" by SPANKY::THOMPSON () Fri Dec 20 1996 15:18

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2180.1root IP icon stays blueZUR01::FUEGLISTERRoland Fueglister, 760-2498Tue Jan 28 1997 13:4722
I seemed to run into the same problem as described in .0

I had running the internal kit V4.1C for quite a while; I did an upgrade from
PNV V4.1B.
Today I experienced problems with the NetView database; a new database didn't
solve the problem.
Therefore I did a brand new PNV 4.1C Installation, no errors shown up so far in
the /tmp/update.log and /tmp/pnvinstall.log. All deamons were running fine.

The Problem:
The root icon stays blue, no nodes are discovered. Some Nodes are in the object
database but with only a few fields, the topology database contains zero nodes.

I have now reinstalled PNV4.1B and this version runs perfect.

Is there a known problem with the internal kit V4.1C? 

Roland
 



2180.2MOLAR::SIEGELMS: ZKO1-3/H18 DTN: 381-0035Wed Jan 29 1997 13:5315
Hi Roland,

Brian Thompson reinstalled PNV V4.1C at the customer site on 1/17/97 (or at
least I assume he did...he asked me to be reachable in case he had any
problems).

I haven't heard whether or not the customer's problem still exists.  Also,
I have not been able to reproduce the problem on in-house systems.

What else is happening on the system?  Have you tried installing the PNV
V4.1C kit from the Con Dist yet?


Joanna
2180.3Con Dist PNV4.1C same problemZUR01::FUEGLISTERRoland Fueglister, 760-2498Thu Jan 30 1997 08:5121
Hi Joanna,

Bad News! In the meantime I got the Con Dist with PNV V4.1C kit.
I deinstalled PNV 4.1B without backup and did a fresh PNV4.1C installation. I
have the same misbehaviour as with the internal kit.

Unix Version:	Digital UNIX V4.0 (Rev. 386) with CDE
NetView:	NetView V4.1C (Rev.55)	


Symptoms:
- The root/Subnet/Segment hierarchy is created, neighbor subnets are set to
	unmanaged
- There are only blue symbols and brown symbols for the unmanaged adjacent
	subnets on the map
- there are no node/interface symbols on the map
- The output of ovobjprint shows node and interface objects, but with only 2
	fields (Field ID 10,27 or 10,11)
- The output of ovtopodump -l shows  zero hosts

Roland
2180.4Same Problem on Customer SystemJULIET::LOLA_JIThu Jan 30 1997 22:1026
    One of my clients was having exactly the same problem on one of their
    production systems.
    
    We deinstalled Netview V4.1B and did a fresh install of V4.1C.  We were 
    unable to manage anything. We deinstalled NetView V4.1C and reinstalled
    NetView V4.1B and we were then able to get things working.
    
    Unix Version : Digital UNIX V4.0A with CDE
    NetView :      NetView V4.1C (from Jan 97 Layered Products) = Not
    Working
                   NetView V4.1B (from Oct 96 Layered Products) = Working
    
    Last week when we were trying to troubleshoot these problems, a
    customer call was placed with the MCS Support Center to report this and
    attempt to get help.  No return call for five days.  
    
    Is this product broken?  Is there a patch?  If this is broken,
    shouldn't an advisory be put out to those customers that have licenses 
    to NOT to install this product?  I know that my clients would
    appreciate such advisories.
    
    Could someone from NetView Engineering please comment on this?
    
    Jim Lola
    Systems Consultant
    Digital NSIS
2180.5TUXEDO::MINTZErik MintzFri Jan 31 1997 12:5919
Jim-

  The V4.1c was tested by engineering and worked correctly.  In fact it
is still working correctly here; we have been completely unable to
replicate the problem.

Could you please send a note to MOLAR::SIEGEL with the following information:

- Has PDM ever been installed on the system?
- Are any other network related products running on the system
  (ClearVSN, DECnet, ...)
- If you have a system still running V4.1c, what happens if you issue
  "TEST->DEMAND POLL" for a system running SNMP?

We need to characterize the problem before we can take effective
correction action, so any help in narrowing down the circumstances
will be greatly appreciated.

-- Erik
2180.6PNV 4.1C upgrade againSPANKY::THOMPSONFri Jan 31 1997 13:2711
    Joanna   On the 17th I went back to the customer to just install PNV
    4.1C and not PDM like you asked.
    The GUI was already down, a ovstatus showed all daemons running except
    gtmd. I then did a ovstop, after 15 minutes the daemons still had not 
    stopped. I then booted the system and got a disk error and eventually
    ended up with a bad system disk. I've replaced the disk and installed
    Unix and OSI yesterday and will be installing PNV,PDM & Probewatch 
    wednesday. I'll yet you know how things go.
    
    thanks
    brian
2180.7restart inetd as a workaroundMOLAR::SIEGELMS: ZKO1-3/H18 DTN: 381-0035Wed Mar 05 1997 19:4413
    
    Restarting the network is a workaround for this problem.  Use netsetup
    to restart the network (/usr/sbin/rcinet restart) .  When you exit the
    procedure it will ask you if you wish to restart the network. 
    
    Warning---anybody remotely logged in will be disconnected.
    
    I have tested this out on several systems which had this problem and
    autodiscovery worked.  If this doesn't fix your problem, please let me
    know.
    
    Thanks,
    Joanna