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Conference noted::hackers_v1

Title:-={ H A C K E R S }=-
Notice:Write locked - see NOTED::HACKERS
Moderator:DIEHRD::MORRIS
Created:Thu Feb 20 1986
Last Modified:Mon Aug 03 1992
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:680
Total number of notes:5456

538.0. "Auto answerback" by CURIE::DECARTERET (Jason DeCarteret) Tue Aug 25 1987 03:37

    I hope someone can help me out with this.
    Does anybody know of an escape sequance that will generate and
    answerback massage?  It will be used to get an answerback message
    form a VT200 type terminal.
    advTHANXance
    		-=*>Jason<*=-
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538.1Send it a control-E (ENQ) characterSHEILA::PUCKETTMy karma ran over my dogmaTue Aug 25 1987 06:150
538.2CURIE::DECARTERETJason DeCarteretWed Aug 26 1987 17:464
      I knew that one but it is going to be used to create an answerback
    in a .COM file.  If there is a way to put a Control sequance in
    a file, please do tell.
    		-=*>Jason<*=-
538.3here ya goANGORA::ZARLENGAA nickel's worth of free adviceWed Aug 26 1987 20:1910
	To put a ^E in a file (called CTRLE.DAT) ...

    $ CTRL_E[0,8] := %x05
    $ OPEN/WRITE file CTRLE.DAT
    $ WRITE file CTRL_E
    $ CLOSE file
    

    -mike
538.4Maybe??CURIE::DECARTERETJason DeCarteretWed Aug 26 1987 20:3313
  The little program you gave me didn't work.  It said something about
Control E not being defined.  I think maybe if I state what my problem is
it will help out better.
  We have two people who use our account.  We both have different things
we need defined like All-in-1 names, process names, logicals etc.  
So I put in LOGIN.COM a file that would inquire who it was, and then go
to the appropriate definitions.
  What I want is to be able to put a unique identification of some kind in
the answerback of each persons terminal.  The file would then inquire which
user it was by looking in the auto answerback of the person logging in.
Then there would be no user input and it would be easier to log in if you
were in a hurry.
		-=*>Jason<*=-
538.5Get seperate accounts... or try this...WAYWRD::GORDONSo this is what it's like to be poor...Wed Aug 26 1987 21:3212
$	ctrle = ""
$	ctrle[0,8] = 5
$	on warning then goto timeout
$	read/prompt="''ctrle'"/time=5 sys$command answerback
$	goto test_answerback
$  timeout:
$	answerback := "***Timeout***
$  test_answerback:
$	if answerback .nes. "" then -
	  write sys$output f$fao("Answerback was /!AS/", answerback)
$	if answerback .eqs. "" then write sys$output "No answerback"
$	exit
538.6ANNECY::ROBERTSNigel Roberts@AEO, DTN 887-4077Thu Aug 27 1987 11:5611
    Using the answerback is _very_ poor security, as it can be reset
    by anyone with physical access to the terminal.
    
    Why can't you use two accounts? Can't be that difficult to set up
    to do what you want.     

    Each person with legitimate access to a computer system should have
    a password which only he/she knows, and that person is responsible for 
    the security of the password. 
    
    This is why sharing accounts is poor security too.