| Title: | -={ H A C K E R S }=- |
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| Moderator: | DIEHRD::MORRIS |
| Created: | Thu Feb 20 1986 |
| Last Modified: | Mon Aug 03 1992 |
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Return-path: <BEC.SHAPIN@USC-ECL.ARPA> Date: Mon 18 Nov 85 11:54:52-PST From: Ted Shapin <BEC.SHAPIN@USC-ECL.ARPA> Subject: Irresponsible computer "game" From a Toys R Us ad in the L.A. Times, 11/17/85: Activision HACKER Makes you feel like you've unlocked someone else's computer system! For C-64, C-128. $24.97. [And on the package:] TEMPTATION HACKER To stumble into somebody else's computer system. To be someplace you're really not supposed to be. And to get the strange feeling that it really does matter. "LOGON PLEASE" is all you get to start with. That's it. From there, it's up to you. If you're clever enough and smart enough, you could discover a world you've never before experienced on your computer. Very temptimg. - - - This "product" is socially irresponsible! It leads young people to think breaking into unknown systems is OK. The "world" they discover may be the world of the penal system! Ted Shapin
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| 178.1 | VAXUUM::DYER | Wed Nov 27 1985 08:35 | 2 | ||
Sounds like fun!!! <_Jym_> | |||||
| 178.2 | DELNI::GOLDSTEIN | Wed Nov 27 1985 16:51 | 7 | ||
I agree with Jym. Given that toys today are frequently based upon playing at kill, maim and defoliate, playing at Cracking isn't morally worse. I'd rather see a kid playing Hacker than playing with a Rambo doll. Toys often are designed to appeal to the lower instincts. Is this one any worse than "cops and robbers", emulation of which can alo lead to jail? | |||||
| 178.3 | CYBORG::ALLEN | Wed Nov 27 1985 20:33 | 8 | ||
Sounds like lots of fun....
Maybe someone should break into activision and get games
there not suppose too..
Maybe the game will give us hints...
HACK
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| 178.4 | BEECH::ECKERT | Fri Nov 29 1985 18:37 | 5 | ||
re: .2 - Just because one is not as wrong as some of the others does not mean that it is morally acceptable. re: .3 - Who knows, perhaps they are working on a game to teach self proclaimed hackers the fundamentals of spelling and English grammar. | |||||
| 178.5 | SPEEDY::BRETT | Sat Nov 30 1985 22:19 | 4 | ||
Maybe its IMPOSSIBLE to log on, and its somebody's way at getting back at hackers who hacked him by making them waste hours of their time... /Bevin | |||||
| 178.6 | MANANA::MEAGHER | Sun Dec 01 1985 14:38 | 26 | ||
Re: .2 - Toys are ALWAYS designed to appeal to the lower instincts and to sublimate or nurture those instincts. Games are intended to simulate environments, primarily by stimulating the imagination. Some of these environments we would never want to find ourselves in physically, but the games that deal with the environments can be fun because the danger is removed or the situation is transformed into something more cerebral. "RISK" and "CLUE", for example, don't deal directly with war or homicide, but those are the underlying concepts. Making money drives this society, sad to say, and until that changes then manifestations of money-making ideas have every right to exist until legal or public opinion pressures them out of existence. Re: .4 - Hey man, y'otta lighten' up, ya know? Which are you, Captain Grammar or Mrs. Grundy? And another thought on "toys that nurture the lower instincts" -- I took an informal poll of "respectable people" (which was mostly married couples) who own VCR's, and found out that most of the couples purchased VCR's primarily to watch hard-core pornography in the privacy of their homes. If this society is sick and encourages that sickness to continue (it is and it does), then a game which simulates "computer crime" is far, far from the nucleus of the disease. bob | |||||
| 178.7 | DRFIX::RAUHALA | Tue Dec 03 1985 15:23 | 8 | ||
Is there a version for VMS, or RSX, or ULTRIX? The hacker would learn how to use teco and write programs in C (or assembler, or teco), as well as o.s. internals and DECnet. Re: .6 I purchased a VCR primarily to watch David Letterman shows. Ken | |||||
| 178.8 | MANANA::MEAGHER | Tue Dec 03 1985 17:24 | 3 | ||
re: .7 - I'll add you to my poll of VCR users. |-) bob | |||||