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Conference noted::hackers_v1

Title:-={ H A C K E R S }=-
Notice:Write locked - see NOTED::HACKERS
Moderator:DIEHRD::MORRIS
Created:Thu Feb 20 1986
Last Modified:Mon Aug 03 1992
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:680
Total number of notes:5456

127.0. "Challenge: End DCL Sexism!!!" by VAXUUM::DYER () Sat Jun 15 1985 05:52

	In the name of nonsexism and, of course, good hacking, I present the
following challenge:  A hacker must break into the VMS source files and change
"SET HOST" to "SET HOSTESS."  I don't mean just on your system (which is
really quite easy); I mean the VMS Development Group's source files, so that
the SDC version of V4.2 or V4.3 has "SET HOSTESS" in it.
	(This challenge is inspired by a note in SOAPBOX complaining about
the sexism implicit in the fact that VMS V4 no longer accepts SET HOSTESS.)
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127.1EXODUS::MARKSun Jun 16 1985 02:0118
	By changing the SET HOST to SET HOSTESS, wouldn't that be just
as sexist as SET HOST???



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127.2LATOUR::AMARTINSun Jun 16 1985 04:213
No, because there is nothing to prevent you from typing SET HOST.
				/AHM

127.3VAXUUM::DYERTue Jun 18 1985 17:122
	Right.
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127.4ACE::BREWERFri Jun 21 1985 13:577
	Hoe about SET HOSTPERSON

	 ^w^

	:-)

	-John
127.5ERIS::CALLASWed Sep 25 1985 15:583
What a bunch of speciesists! It should be SET HOSTBEING.

	Jon
127.6MERIDN::BAILEYyeliaB dE - DTN 255-5273, MDOFri Jul 10 1987 05:224
    No, no, no, all of you have it wrong!  The command came from LCG
    land, where there is a node called TWINKY::
    
    			Ed_who_worked_on_TWINKY
127.7JON::SANTIAGOEd Santiago, LEDEFri Jul 10 1987 13:1316
    In pre-v6 versions of TOPS-20, there was no SET HOST command, and
    the way to do remote logins is by running a program called HOST.
    
    Naturally, on many of the machines in Marlboro there was also
    a program called HOSTESS, which was exactly the same thing, but
    used only when going to (yep, you guessed it) TWINKY.
    
    Another one I'd heard was a drive pack on a -20 system called
    HELENS. In TOPS-20 you don't automatically have access to all
    online diskpacks, sometimes you have to mount them (in software-
    it may be physically mounted but you still can't get to it).
    The command to do this was MOUNT STRUCTURE. So naturally we get...
    
    MOUNT ST HELENS
    
    (So this probably doesn't belong here, so sue me)
127.8Alive, or..MDVAX3::COARA wretched hive of bugs and flamers.Fri Oct 30 1987 13:574
    SET HOST, SET HOSTESS, SET HOSTBEING... Lotsa typing.  Why not SET
    CREATURE?
    
    #ken	:-)}
127.9TWINKY lives stillVINO::FRANCINIDuh gee Tennesee what do we do now?Mon Nov 02 1987 01:369
TWINKY still does exist (even though it's now a KS-10 formerly known as 
KS4097), and thus there's still a bit of life in the demand for SET HOSTESS.

I suppose that change will happen a lot sooner than TOPS-20 style command 
completion and incremental help will.....but that's a different can of 
worms that belongs in a different notes file.


oh well
127.10...MTBLUE::PFISTER_ROBAre we having fun yet?Mon Nov 02 1987 10:481
    Well, what about  ``MOUNT'' ??
127.11Oh wellSKIVT::HEARNTimeshare - Life's a BATCH anywayMon Nov 02 1987 15:535
    
    	What's wrong with MOUNT???  Some women ride horses - they MOUNT
    	those don't they?  No?     :^)
    
    	As for SET... Hummm
127.12 $ SUBMIT !!! :-)PASTIS::MONAHANI am not a free number, I am a telephone boxTue Nov 03 1987 08:061
    
127.13What's sexist (or even anthropomorphic) about SUBMIT?MDVAX3::COARMy hero? Vax Headroom, of course!Thu Dec 17 1987 19:410
127.14What about Mail? should that be Femail?BAXTA::PFISTER_ROBNo Pain, No PainThu Dec 17 1987 20:144



127.15on Mail vs. FemailLOWLIF::HUXTABLEThe Next Dread Pirate RobertsFri Dec 18 1987 13:221
    A friend of mine refers to the "mailman" as the "entity-entity" ...
127.16ERIS::CALLASSanta Claus: Jolly Old Elf, or CIA Spook?Fri Dec 18 1987 16:475
    There is a FEMAIL utility. Send mail to PSWAPM::POSNIAK for details.
    Don't bother sending him femail. If you can send him femail, you have
    the femail utility.
    
    	Jon 
127.17Pardon my ignorance, butSSDEVO::YOUNGERGod is nobody. Nobody loves you.Mon Dec 21 1987 13:222
    What is FEMAIL?
    
127.18ERIS::CALLASI've lost my faith in nihilism.Tue Dec 22 1987 13:3310
    Do you really want to know?

    You're sure? It will spoil everything.

    Very well. FEMAIL is nothing more than an April Fools' joke. I didn't
    spend a lot of time hacking it because I suspected that it was nothing
    more than the MAIL utility with a prompt that was "FEMAIL> ". It was,
    however, a very good laugh. 
    
    	Jon
127.19Also known as a Message ParlourSQM::HALLYBKhan or bust!Tue Dec 22 1987 18:133
    MAIL is a utility we ship with the VMS product at no extra charge.
    
    Therefore, FEMAIL is a MAIL utility for which a FE must be paid.