Conference noted::hackers_v1

Connect to port 75 on SU-SAIL on the Arpanet, and the -20 dials up
MRC's Atari CBBS.  Check it out if you can't afford to go to San
Francisco, but want to see what strange things go on out there.
				/AHM

Short of getting an account on MARKET, is there a way to do this from the
Enet?
					John

I doubt it.  I don't think DECWRL is a gateway for anything but mail.

Maybe a guest account on an MIT machine?
				/AHM

	Go ahead and post BBS numbers.  I'm especially interested in BBS's
that share code.
		<_Jym_>

	Just pick up a copy of Computer Shopper... there is a list of
	several hundred boards in phone number order (so you can find
	something local).  There are also ads from a person who maintains
	a list of 1300 boards that he sells for six dollars.  Most
	of the boards will have numbers of yet more boards in their
	area!  You can start with:

		(617) 897-0346	New England Computer Society (FIDO board)

		(617) 266-7789	Boston Bullets (Bullet-80 board)

	These will lead to more.... and more.... and more...

		-John A. Wasser

GACK!   I hope that 897-xxxx number is not really active!
That was my ancient CBBS that ran on a 11/34 in the Mill 5-5 Distributed
systems lab.  That system hasn't been up for about 5 years now.

I could FLAME ON about publishing that number but I'll save you the 
grief.

THE CORRECT PHONE NUMBER for the NECS FIDO (two bugs here: 897-xxxx never
was a FIDO!)  is  646-3610   (the same number that I used to run CBBS/Boston
from)

	Dave Mitton, beleagured Sysop.

	Sorry, Dave.  The numbers came straight out of a copy of Computer
	Shopper I bought last week.  They just recently instituted a policy
	of deleting a board if they haven't received a notice of its
	continuing existence for over three months.  If you want your
	current board to be/stay listed you have to send them a postcard
	every couple of months...  I can't wait to see how small their
	list gets after the first purge!

		-John A. Wasser

A good collection of Bulletin Boards is in the Book "The Computer Phone Book"
by Mike Cane. He also publishes a different version for Commodore Users
(talk about Marketing). The book has about 400 BBS numbers, and there is
a subscription service to receive updates (updates thru U.S. Mail).

It also includes sections with User's Guides to BRS After Dark, 
Compuserve, Dow Jones, The Source, and some others. Of course, when 
you subscribe to any of those systems you also receive users Guides, but
this lets you decide ahead of time; or unless of course you're a hacker.....

I have been priding myself on having information about as many of the
pay-for-usage public database systems available. Rather than the bulletin
board necessarily being general info (or whatever), these include regular
magazines (ie. Newsnet), Airline Pricing (Official Airline Guide), or
buying and selling of stock (NAICO-NET available thru Delphi and others).
And of course don't forget systems like Dialog, or the PC applications
that front-end it so that you don't need to learn Dialog or pay it's high
charges (PC's type and store info from these systems much faster than humans).

And of course don't forget that a VAX could consolidate requests and be
a server (meaning that many users would actually be using ONE ID on the service,
and that all requests would actually be made at high speed from the VAX)--
many of our customers would like something like that (I think), and 
we've got programs that can already do that sort of thing on the 20s today.

I've been envisioning myself as sort of an 'information broker', so if
you or a customer are looking for a database or system to provide
a particular service, send me mail and I will see what I've got.

A question and a comment.

Question:

	Is there any software that connects with some sort of node somewhere
	on the e-net, such that from my terminal I can "dial" various
	advertised phone numbers ?  Sure, if I had a modem in my office I
	could do it.  But I don't.  It would be great if some sort of
	auto-dialer were available on some e-net node that we could use.

Comment:

	Regarding public databases, if you have a modem, try

		1-800-EASYNET

	It's a vast public database that you can ask all sorts of questions
	to.  A friend of mine (Marvin Weinberger) is one of the owners.
	If you dial it, it will ask for your Mastercharge or Visa number.
	However, it'll warn you when you get to the point in the interaction
	where charges will begin, and give you a chance to back out.
	Charges, when you do agree, are $6 or $12 a transaction.

	Share any experiences you have with this, particularly interesting
	topics you've discovered that it "knows about".

I don't know about a netwide auto-dial modem, but I've been using a 
DF03 on the backend of VAXes for 3 years to access remote systems.

At first we used AUTODIAL but switched over to MODEM a while ago.  
With the latest version (4.0-1) you can even write a script file to 
run as a batch job to log into a remote system and retrieve data.

/marc

    OKAY,
    	I NEED INFO RELATING TO ANY SOURCES FOR HARDWARE: I.E., BOARDS
    FOR S-100 BUS, Z80-A SYSTEMS AND THEIR COMPATIBILITY??
    						KRH
    

    BIX (the BYTE Information eXchange) has quite a bit of stuff on
    the S-100 bus and CP/M, as well as a Compupro conference where you
    can ask questions (and get first shot at discontinued/returned
    products) of the Compupro people.
    
    	The Arpanet info-cpm group is also quite informative.
    
    Willie