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Name | Date | Lines |
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| 464.1 | Try /MODE=HEX (or OCTAL) | RAINBO::WASSER | John A. Wasser | Fri Jan 27 1989 20:50 | 97 |
| 464.2 | $ CHECK/IMAGE imagename.exe is quick and easy also | CSC32::S_LEDOUX | Specialization is for insects. | Sat Jan 28 1989 12:19 | 0 |
| 464.3 | thanks, and more info on CHECK? | NSG035::ADAMS | Another day, another dollar | Mon Jan 30 1989 13:37 | 6 |
| 464.4 | CHECK or CHECK/IMAGE | COORS::S_LEDOUX | Specialization is for insects. | Mon Jan 30 1989 13:42 | 7 |
| 464.5 | | PASTIS::MONAHAN | humanity is a trojan horse | Mon Jan 30 1989 16:45 | 3 |
| 464.6 | something else needed for Alpha? | CUJO::SAMPSON | | Mon Mar 24 1997 00:50 | 13 |
| How about OpenVMS Alpha image files? Are the same methods
(DIFFERENCES and CHECKSUM) supposed to work? A customer
says that he sees differences scattered throughout the
Alpha images that are linked against two different GSMATCH
versions of a shareable image. I haven't been able to
check this out on my own, though. He wants to use this as
his method of determining whether he needs to relink any
application images after installing the ALPLIBR patch
intended to fix the "10,000 days after 1970" (May 19, 1997)
problem.
Thanks for any advice,
Bob Sampson
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| 464.7 | | COMEUP::SIMMONDS | loose canon | Mon Mar 24 1997 01:56 | 21 |
| .6> Alpha images that are linked against two different GSMATCH
.6> versions of a shareable image. I haven't been able to
[...]
.6> his method of determining whether he needs to relink any
.6> application images after installing the ALPLIBR patch
Non Sequitur? (Or is the Customer talking about his o_w_n shareable
images built on routines from STARLET.OLB??)
.6> How about OpenVMS Alpha image files? Are the same methods
.6> (DIFFERENCES and CHECKSUM) supposed to work? A customer
Don't know.
.6> says that he sees differences scattered throughout the
Linkage PSECT contents, most likely..
John.
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| 464.8 | See VMSNOTES 238.* | XDELTA::HOFFMAN | Steve, OpenVMS Engineering | Tue Mar 25 1997 00:26 | 29 |
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A 10Kday issue over here? Ugh. There's a large discussion going on
over in VMSNOTES 238.*. (I'd prefer to keep all the 10Kday issues
together, as we're trying to address all these issues together.)
There's an investigative procedure being developed here in OpenVMS,
and it explicitly covers how to evaluate ones code and ones image(s)
for the problem. I'd expect to post it (or a pointer) over in 238.*.
If the customer can see LIBRTL in the image(s) and does not have
a "private" LIBRTL, then the customer will pick up the ECO fixes
automatically.
If the customer cannot see the LIBRTL in the image(s) and if the
customer did not link the image(s) against STARLET.OLB, then
there is likely no 10Kday problem. (One has to go out of one's
way with LINKER qualifiers to LINK against STARLET.OLB and not
against the shareable images such as LIBRTL.)
If the customer did link against STARLET.OLB, then the only way
to tell if there is a problem is to look at the source code, or
search through the image(s) looking for the footprint of the three
object modules that could have been retrieved from STARLET.OLB.
(Or to relink, which will pick up the fixed object modules.)
Both you and the customer will want to read through the Q&A -- this
will help the customer understand the problem -- and then start to
look at local programming practices, and at the necessity of the ECO.
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| 464.9 | "can't be done" is a valid answer | CUJO::SAMPSON | | Tue Mar 25 1997 01:00 | 16 |
| Well, we've actually been living and breathing the Q & A.
Basically, the customer doesn't want to look closely at his build
procedures or link maps. He wants to semi-automate the search
for code changes in the executable images of his applications.
He wants to detect only "meaningful" differences between two
builds of a single OpenVMS Alpha image, one before installing
the 10K ECO, and one after. Only if a "meaningful" difference
is found, does he want to investigate further how that particular
application image is built (probably with /NOSYSSHR).
This is not specifically a 10K issue; I just wanted you
to know what this customer is trying to do, in case it has already
been done.
Thanks,
Bob Sampson
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