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Conference 7.286::star_trek

Title:STAR TREK
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Created:Mon Feb 10 1986
Last Modified:Thu Jun 05 1997
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1088.0. "ST:DS9 - Soldiers of the Empire" by DECCXL::WIBECAN (That's the way it is, in Engineering!) Thu Feb 27 1997 20:12

This note is for discussion of the STAR TREK: DEEP SPACE NINE episode entitled
"Soldiers of the Empire."

[Season 5, episode 21]

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1088.1Press info, from VidiotDECCXL::WIBECANThat's the way it is, in Engineering!Thu Apr 03 1997 14:1350
Soldiers of the Empire

Episode #119

Production #519

                                 SPELLINGS
              B'Moth
              Rotarran

                                    CAST
              Captain Benjamin Sisko          Avery Brooks
              Odo                             Rene Auberjonois
              Lieutenant Commander Worf       Michael Dorn
              Lieutenant Commander Jadzia Dax Terry Farrell
              Jake Sisko                      Cirroc Lofton
              Chief Operations Officer Miles
              O'Brien                         Colm Meaney
              Quark                           Armin Shimerman
              Dr. Julian Bashir               Alexander Siddig
              Major Kira Nerys                Nana Visitor

                                GUEST STARS

              Leskit                          David Graf
              Koman                           Rick Worthy
              Tavana                          Sandra Nelson
              Nog                             Aron Eisenberg
              Martok                          J.G. Hertzler

              Written by:                     Ronald D. Moore

              Directed by:                    LeVar Burton

PROGRAM HIGHLIGHTS

     STAR TREK: DEEP SPACE NINE: "Soldiers of the Empire" - On a mission for
     the Klingon Empire, Worf realizes that his friend General Martok is no
     longer fit to lead.

TV GUIDE AD

     KLINGON OR COWARD?
     To complete his mission...
     To save his crew...
     Must Worf kill his own commander?

TV LOG LISTING

     Klingon or coward? STAR TREK: DEEP SPACE NINE.
1088.2skylab.zko.dec.com::FISHERGravity: Not just a good idea. It's the law!Mon May 05 1997 16:214
I loved Dax as usual, but this one seemed a bit disjointed.  Martok and Worf did
not ring true at all to me.

Burns
1088.3DECCXX::WIBECANThat's the way it is, in Engineering!Mon May 05 1997 18:0010
>> I loved Dax as usual, but this one seemed a bit disjointed.  Martok and Worf did
>> not ring true at all to me.

Funny, I liked Worf and Martok, and thought Dax was a little too assertive in
this one.  She looked like she was fomenting a rebellion.

I loved when Martok did the gesture with his two fingers and said "Engage"
(both times, once in Klingon).

						Brian
1088.4GAAS::TSUKMichael TsukMon May 05 1997 18:466
    I thought this was an excellent episode.  Everything rang true for
    me, and I was pleased that they were able to explore a new facet
    of Klingon culture (something that I would have thought very difficult,
    ten years into the shows)
    
    					-Michael
1088.5skylab.zko.dec.com::FISHERGravity: Not just a good idea. It's the law!Mon May 05 1997 20:239
I guess what seemed to not strike me right was the big fight between Worf and
Martok and then suddenly they are buddies again.

Oh, the other thing I wanted to mention about this that I found interesting: 
One of the Klingons on the ship seemed to be an "old-style" TOS Klingon (looking
like a swarthy human).  I guess we'll never know since Klingons "don't talk
about it" :-)

Burns
1088.6Sandra Nelson = human, alien, KlingonLABC::HAMon May 05 1997 23:3112
    Interesting that Sandra Nelson was now a Klingon after doing the ST:VOY
    where she was the alien that wanted Tuvok to stay wither her.  That's
    the neat thing about doing Star Trek I suppose - you can die or be in
    another part of the galaxy as one alien / human in one episode / series
    and then come back as another being in another episode / series.
    
    Overall a pretty good episode, I thought.
    
    
    							Michael
    
    
1088.7Not the First Time.OHFSS1::HOLLANDDAResistance is Fer-TileTue May 06 1997 12:0910
    RE; -1
    
    They;ve done that several times.  Speaking of ST:VOY, Tim Russ was in
    an episode of ST: The Next Generation, one of the movies - I can't
    remember which right now.  And don't forget Robert Duncan Mcneil..
    
    I guess if you find a good actor - relativly unknown and you like them,
    go with it...
    
    Dave
1088.8TuvokSAPPHO::DUBOISHailstorm Project LeaderTue May 06 1997 18:477
<    They;ve done that several times.  Speaking of ST:VOY, Tim Russ was in
<    an episode of ST: The Next Generation, one of the movies 

He was in the background (crowd scene) of one of the Mirror-Mirror type
episodes on DS9.  He was one of the rebels.

    Carol
1088.9CSC32::HADDOCKPas Fini!Wed May 07 1997 06:0143
    
    re .5
    Don't know how long the spoilers should be in place, but since the
    following pretty much gives away the "punch line" of the show:

























>I guess what seemed to not strike me right was the big fight between Worf and
>Martok and then suddenly they are buddies again.

    Martok knew that Worf had deliberately dropped his guard (rather than
    kill him) not knowing that Martok would not kill him if given the opening.
    Martok's victory over Worf "energized" the crew just in time for the
    Jimhadar ship to arrive--also proving Martok's intuition correct.

    Question is, would a true Klingon have not gone for the victory 
    rather than allow himself to be stabbed?

    So Worf has now been "adopted" into The House of Martok.

    fred();
1088.10Yo Ho and a Barrel of Blood WineHOTLNE::HANLEYThe Galatic wandererFri May 09 1997 12:519
    
    I thought it was a good episode except for one little nit,
    
    Klingons singing on the bridge? I almost expected them to
    start singing "Yo Ho Ho and a Bottle of Rum", like the
    pirates of old ,sailing the seven seas under a one eyed 
    captain.
    
                                   -Ray