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Title:STAR TREK
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1093.0. "ST:VOY - Displaced" by DECCXL::WIBECAN (That's the way it is, in Engineering!) Thu Mar 13 1997 18:39

This topic is for discussion of the STAR TREK: VOYAGER episode entitled
"Displaced."

[Season 3, episode 24]

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1093.1hit or miss for me on this oneSUBSYS::MSOUCYMentalmETALMikeThu May 08 1997 17:4438
    
    Saw this one last night, surprised noone commented on it yet....
    
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    That should be enough. I thought it was ok, except for how they were
    taken over sooooo fast, found someone who was also captured, and able
    to get into their computer systems so quickly when Voyager was taken
    over rather as rapidly as well. And the ending scene in the winter
    world was sort of lame.
    
    And what's this budding relationship between Paris and Torres? I know
    from the one where she was "in heat" klingon mating ritual timeframe
    stuff was happening or starting to then. Has it been progressing more
    now? I haven't been watching this as often as others as I'd rather be
    seeing B5 (MUCH better story line, et al IMO compared to Voyager) but I
    do enjoy SF and am a Star Trek fan for the most part, so I do try and
    catch these and ST:DS9 when I can. Next week looks almost like a re-run
    rehashed if I remember the highlights......
    
    It was an interesting way in taking over ships and whatnot with that
    technology, and the way they played coy initially prior to full blown
    take-over....
    
    
1093.2DECCXX::WIBECANThat's the way it is, in Engineering!Thu May 08 1997 19:0831
Reasonable episode, IMHO, but not as good as other recent efforts.

>>    Saw this one last night, surprised noone commented on it yet....

We've gone for days without comments on some episodes, sometimes to the point
where people commented on the next episode first.

Spoilers..


I agree about the strange selective capabilities in getting into the computer
system.  They were able to bypass the security lockout before they were able to
translate what they were reading?

>>    And what's this budding relationship between Paris and Torres?

That's one of the big plot elements being developed for next season (and later
this season).

I did like the fairly obvious plot twist where the aliens at first seemed
innocent and turned out to be behind the whole thing.  That was done well.

I did not like that they needed deliverance by a fellow prisoner's technology. 
I would have preferred them to solve it themselves, or the holodoc do something
because he's not alive and not detectable, or something like that.

This was another show where Voyager crew members were kept prisoner in a large
environment that was assumed to be a planet but turned out to be a ship. 
Weird.

						Brian
1093.3liked Chakotay's scenes and resolve tooAPLVEW::DEBRIAElanguage by declarationThu May 08 1997 19:1417
    
    I liked this one, it kept me interested as I thought how I'd react to
    those conditions and dwindling crew. The nits I didn't like were
    computer codes being so easily cracked, them not putting strong force
    fields up around the cargo bays (granted end of story right there), and
    the usual ST phenomenon of a great story setup which all gets resolved
    in 30 seconds due to lack of time. Though, to be fair, I'd rather have
    more time spent in the meat of the story than in actually seeing on-
    screen how the situation clears itself up. Given the quick facts the
    audience can play out the scenes in their own heads after the show is
    over. But still, I hate being left with the feeling of a rushed ending.

    I still think the opening credit scenes and music are a thing of
    beauty, even after all this time. 
    
    I too like Paris and Torres together, hope we see more...

1093.4ok - but nitsUFP::BOBBJanet Bobb dtn:339-5755Thu May 08 1997 19:5534
    ok episode - but this crew needs major trainin on battle situations.
    Something I've said before.
    
    Though it nice again to see yet another culture more advanced than
    Voyager. Janeway/crew seem too cocky about escaping or enforcing their
    opinions because they usually have more firepower. Maybe these 2
    episodes will help with a little more caution.
    
    Once again the doctor gets a great line - "and now I'll begin my new
    life as a tricorder"....
    
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    chakotay did the best defense with his sabotage - but why wait until
    only 1-2 people left. When he had 12  and they knew the alians were
    hostile - start crashing stuff at that point!
    
    It didn't bother me the alians could get into the systems, who knows
    how advanced they are. But for Janeway and Tuvok to get in so quickly
    seemed a stretch. They couldn't figure how to keep out these guys, yet
    they could break in so easy?
    
    And - why didn't Tom and Bllana take the weapons from the downed
    guards? I know they were freezing, but it was a hostile situation and
    their weapon was now dead. And when chakotay was crawling through the
    ship, take his comm badge off so they can't track him, especially after
    he was last guy.
    
    Oh well - as someone already said - would then be a short show.
     
    
1093.5hard to burn one's own house downAPLVEW::DEBRIAElanguage by declarationThu May 08 1997 21:1223
    
    Yes, Torres and Paris leaving the alien weapons behind bothered me too!
    It didn't seem right, given the tension of capture built until that
    point.

    I didn't mind Janeway being able to mangle her way through the prison
    systems though. Since no one had escaped before and all the prisoners
    were behind bars, why would the guards make their own systems hard to
    use when they're the only ones using them. I felt Janeway found a
    station in its everyday work mode, before anyone locked it out. Like
    finding an Alphastation someone forgot to lock out during lunch break
    ("didn't think the HP moles would show up _today_!") .All Janeway
    had to do was try to figure out the language differences ('all',
    chuckle).

    On Chakotay, I dunno, I suppose I would do the same thing - not destroy
    my own ship while I had any chance at all of keeping it. Until the end,
    when I knew there was no way out and Janeway wouldn't magically appear
    aboard with reinforcements after figuring out some novel technological
    feat. :-) 



1093.6good story rushedVAXUUM::KEEFEFri May 09 1997 13:2116
This episode did suffer from the old rush treatment. Too bad, the story
was clever and had enough substance for a two-parter. 

But any single episode in which the whole crew is removed from the ship
and returned again is going to be rushed.

The "cold" environment looked like a cheesy leftover set from the original 
Star Trek. White acrylic rocks and no steamy breath. And, not picking up 
the weapons, so sloppy! 

Still, the writing has improved a lot lately.

A final external shot of the habitat ship, showing a few ships arriving 
to pick up their lost prisoners, would have been nice. Especially the 
ship of the timid neighbor with the munchies. Who come to think of it 
looked a lot like the dino-fundamentalists from the week before.
1093.7Press info, from VidiotDECCXX::WIBECANThat's the way it is, in Engineering!Mon May 12 1997 16:5417
UPN - Voyager - (STV324)

"Displaced" - One by one, Janeway's crew suddenly and mysteriously trades
places with mercurial aliens from Nyria Three. As Janeway quickly becomes
surrounded by these seemingly perplexed strangers who react strongly to the
ship's temperature and lights, she must scramble to keep control of her ship.
Meanwhile her confused crew is transplanted to an idyllic yet artificial world. 

Starring Kate Mulgrew as Captain Janeway, Robert Beltran as Chakotay, Roxann
Biggs-Dawson as B'Elanna Torres, Jennifer Lien as Kes, Robert Duncan McNeill as
Lt. Tom Paris, Ethan Phillips as Neelix, Robert Picardo as The Doctor, Tim Russ
as Tuvok, Garrett Wang as Harry Kim. 

Guest starring are Deborah Levin as Lang, Mark L. Taylor as Jarlath, James Noah
as Rislan, Kenneth Tigar as Dammar, Nancy Youngblut as Taleen. 

The story was written by Lisa Klink and directed by Allan Kroeker.