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| 1072.1 | Part 2 of 2 | DECCXL::WIBECAN | That's the way it is, in Engineering! | Thu Nov 21 1996 14:11 | 0 |
| 1072.2 | Press release, from Vidiot | DECCXL::WIBECAN | That's the way it is, in Engineering! | Fri Feb 07 1997 17:28 | 56 |
| By Inferno's Light
Episode #113
Production #513
SPELLINGS
[none]
CAST
Captain Benjamin Sisko Avery Brooks
Odo Rene Auberjonois
Lieutenant Commander Worf Michael Dorn
Lieutenant Commander Jadzia
Dax Terry Farrell
Jake Sisko Cirroc Lofton
Chief Operations Officer
Miles O'Brien Colm Meaney
Quark Armin Shimerman
Dr. Julian Bashir Alexander Siddig
Major Kira Nerys Nana Visitor
GUEST STARS
as
Garak Andrew Robinson
as
Gul Dukat Marc Alaimo
Ziyal Melanie Smith
Martok J.G. Hertzler
Deyos Ray Buktenica
Ikat'ika James Horan
Romulan Carrie Stauber
as
Gowron Robert O'Reilly
Written by: Ira Steven Behr &
Robert Hewitt Wolfe
Directed by: Les Landau
PROGRAM HIGHLIGHTS
STAR TREK: DEEP SPACE NINE: "By Inferno's Light" - Led by Gul Dukat,
Cardassia joins the Dominion and prepares to take over the Alpha
Quadrant.
TV GUIDE AD
UNHOLY ALLIANCE!
Starfleet's greatest enemies join forces -
to destroy the Federation!
TV LOG LISTING
Starfleet's greatest enemies unite on STAR TREK: DEEP SPACE NINE.
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| 1072.3 | What--no Borg? | CSC32::HADDOCK | Pas Fini! | Thu Feb 20 1997 12:25 | 41 |
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spoilers:
Caught this last night on the late-night feed. Worf has come a long
way from getting his hiney kicked by the woos-of-the-week.
Was good to see all those ships show up. Don't know yet what happened
to the Maquis(I never can get that spelling right). However, it got
to the point that I was looking for a Borg ship to show up.
The ending was a kind of a whimp-out. I was hoping to see what the
combined fire-power of the fleets looked like.
Nit: Wouldn't sending a changling on a suicide mission come under the
heading of harming another changling? I'd think they could have put
the ship on auto-pilot or had a Vorta around handy for that part.
fred();
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| 1072.4 | | CSC32::HADDOCK | Pas Fini! | Thu Feb 20 1997 14:06 | 37 |
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spoilers: maybe:
So... Garak is apparently the illegitimate son of Enabran Tain. I
suspect he is Dukat's half brother. However it appears that Dukat
has for some reason felt slighted in the relationship. Probably
Garak went into the "family business" while Dukat went his own way.
Which would make Garak Ziyal's uncle. The girl is obviously developing
non-paternal feeling for the old geezer. He is obviously uncomfortable
with the developments.
fred();
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| 1072.5 | | DECCXL::WIBECAN | That's the way it is, in Engineering! | Sun Feb 23 1997 16:57 | 26 |
| Not quite as good a conclusion as I would have liked. A good episode,
nonetheless.
Spoilers:
I was disappointed they didn't have some kind of showdown with the United Alpha
Quadrant and the Dominion. I guess that will come toward the end of the show's
lifespan (reputed to be next season). I was very happy to see the Klingons and
the Romulans come through. The increased Klingon presence will be good (I
can't believe I'm saying that).
Dukat has changed dramatically from where I thought they were taking the
character a while back. It seems rather sudden. I like where they've taken
Garak, he's really developed.
>> So... Garak is apparently the illegitimate son of Enabran Tain. I
>> suspect he is Dukat's half brother.
Where did you get that Dukat is related to Tain? Or is this a guess?
The Jem Haddar look less and less evil, and more honorable, each time they show
them with the Bothas (sp?). I wonder if they ended up killing that Jem Haddar
leader who yielded to Worf?
Brian
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| 1072.6 | | skylab.zko.dec.com::FISHER | Gravity: Not just a good idea. It's the law! | Sun Feb 23 1997 19:06 | 33 |
| I did not mind the "wimp out" ending. I like these kinds of things. I
did not like
...oops... spoilers...
I did not like it that Dukat changed so radically. We have had NO CLUE
whatsoever that he was leaning that way, and he had always seemed
honorable in his own way. It doesn't fit. Could *HE* be a changling?
Anyway, I also thought it odd that the Dominion left the runabout in
orbit about the prison moon. And I also could have sworn last week
that the place they said the signal was coming from was blue and
earthlike. Maybe I misunderstood something, but it looked like there
was an earthlike world circling a large jovian-type world.
Anyway, I liked this story quite a lot. Nice job guys!
Burns
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| 1072.7 | | CSC32::HADDOCK | Pas Fini! | Mon Feb 24 1997 12:48 | 58 |
| re .5
spoilers: maybe:
>>> So... Garak is apparently the illegitimate son of Enabran Tain. I
>>> suspect he is Dukat's half brother.
>
>Where did you get that Dukat is related to Tain? Or is this a guess?
A guess. There is an animosity between the two that goes beyond
political rivalry. So far, this is the only thing that really makes
since. Dukat is a "Gull" and Garak has been banished. You'd think
that would be enough for political rivalry. Yet I get the impression
that nothing would satisfy Dukat short of dumping Garak into a warp
core. That type of pure, unadulterated hate has to go way back.
>Dukat has changed dramatically from where I thought they were taking the
>character a while back. It seems rather sudden.
That's the way real life goes sometimes. Dukat has always been a
bit "unstable". He would have had to have been pretty ruthless to
be in charge of DS9 previously. He seems to be an "opportunist".
This is not totally untelegraphed. He "jumped ship" pretty quick
when the Klingons attacked. Now with the Dominion sworn to wipe out
the Cardasians, he may feel that the only way to save Cardasia is
to cozy up to the Diminion ala the Vichy French in WWII or Poland
under Napoleon.
On the other hand, as someone else mentioned, he could be a changling.
fred();
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| 1072.8 | Dukat is one smart leader | TNPUBS::NAZZARO | UMass is back - watch out NCAA! | Mon Feb 24 1997 13:00 | 18 |
| I don't think Dukat is a changeling, but I definitely agree with the
opportunist tag. And I don't (formfeed coming)
think his turnaround was that dramatic. He never liked the fact that
Cardassia wasn't the ruling force in the galaxy. Dukat at heart feeds
off power, and the Dominion provided a convenient route to regaining
the power he so obviously missed. Dukat has proven to be shrewd and
calculating; this return to Cardassia provides him with the method
to feed his ego and place his people where he believes they belong.
What this gains the Dominion I'm less sure.
Also, why would the changeling commit hari-kari by flying the shuttle
into the sun? Seems like a useless waste of life.
NAZZ
PS - Garak and Worf were both terrific in the prison!
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| 1072.9 | would have been a sad day if Founder's plan worked | APLVEW::DEBRIAE | searching for the language that is _also_ yours | Mon Feb 24 1997 17:49 | 34 |
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Spoilers...
The rapid sudden change in Dukat really bothered me as well. It was too
extreme a change with no fluctuation seen beforehand. If he is not a
changeling, then I'm disappointed in the lack of continuity.
The first part was fantastic, the finale was very limp I thought, a bit
of a let down (though that seems to be standard ST condition).
I did like the fact that the Klingons and Romulans and SF were coming
together, I'd been waiting for those alliances to develop in the face
of the Dominion threat. Things could get exciting if the writers let
them.
I always like Garak and he was fantastic here as well. A scene is never
dull when he's involved. Brooks flared his nostrils a few times once
again to express any acting range other than just appearing stone-
faced but that's come to be expected by now.
I too feel the writers are going overboard in trying to make the Jem
Hadar seem less violent and less aggressive and as if they exert more
personal control over themselves than they appeared in the past. By
golly they are beginning to appear less violent and blood-thirsty than
even the Klingons. This doesn't jive with their previous portrayals on
DS9. At the rate they were going, we might soon see the Jem Hadar join
the noble Klingons out of their sheer respect for them, saying how
they're "just in it for the white," right?
The Bashir and Worf scenes were good in this episode too. I liked Worf
here more than I usually do (good role for him, enraged beaten up
warrior).
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| 1072.10 | good | 37119::BOBB | Janet Bobb dtn:339-5755 | Wed Feb 26 1997 17:04 | 32 |
| liked this, but thought it was a letdown from the 1st episode. Liked
Worf - showed some of the klingon moxie we've heard about over the
years, but haven't seen recently. Garak was good and the doctor. Really
threw me when he showed up on the detention rock.
first thought when I saw the breen in this episode was - hey, that's
princess leia from the 3rd star wars movie!
Where was odo in all this? I don't think he was in either episode?
more comments after formfeed
spoilers
did the dominion really send through all the ships we thought we saw or
was that also an illusion? Because if all those ships really are on
this side of the wormhole - it suprized me they didn't try to kick more
butt. All they've done so far is remove the klingons from cardassian
space. But then again - this is a possible plot for another whole
episode. Just surprized me they didn't have some battle.
It was nice seeing Garon put the thumbprint back on the peace accord
and General Mortag will be an interesting addition to the cast. It must
be hard for an actor to have only the one eye working (unless the
covering is thin enough for the other eye to see.) I wonder if at some
point we'll see an eyepatch "hammered" on, like the klingon general
from the ST:TOS movie, Undiscovered Country.
Good episode.
janetb.
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| 1072.11 | It will come before the end of the season, I bet | 4158::NAZZARO | UMass is back - watch out NCAA! | Wed Feb 26 1997 18:48 | 8 |
| Answer to FF question:
There were no ships. It was a mirage to allow the shuttlecraft to get
away and blow up the sun. The Cardassians aren't ready for battle -
yet.
NAZZ
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| 1072.12 | | SMURF::PETERT | rigidly defined areas of doubt and uncertainty | Wed Feb 26 1997 19:12 | 14 |
| I think you mis-understood the question.
Yes, the ships at the end weren't really there, but then there
was nothing to see anyway, just sensor images. However,
in the first part, or was it the beginning of the second part,
many Dominion ships did come through, and then headed off to
Cardassia. Those ships were real (or else Gul Dukat was
backed by shadow puppets, and the Klingon's were thrown out
of Cardassian space by illusions.)
PeterT
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| 1072.13 | .12 has it right | UFP::BOBB | Janet Bobb dtn:339-5755 | Thu Feb 27 1997 16:18 | 18 |
| .12 has it right - about what I was asking
if that many ships came through the wormhole I find it hard to believe
they are just willing to hang around cardassien space. However, there
could have been many less ships, if they were using the "illusion" from
the very beginning, something like 1 real ship for every 20 that show
up.
Can't imagine the Jem'hdr being able to just sit and wait. Even with
Vorta's telling them that.
Also - in fighting a Jemhdr (sp?), if you cut through/disconnect the
drug tube, would that disable them or just really tick them off?
haven't seen it used yet, but it seemed an obvious fight technique.
janetb.
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| 1072.14 | | skylab.zko.dec.com::FISHER | Gravity: Not just a good idea. It's the law! | Fri Feb 28 1997 15:07 | 9 |
| I think the Jem'Hdr are quite in character in this episode, contrary to what a
couple others said. Remember the episode where Julian and Miles found a bunch
of them trying to wean themselves from the white? Those guys seemed mostly to
be honorable.
Also, that episode answers .13: W/o white, withdrawal is quite painful, but it
does not disable them immediately.
Burns
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| 1072.15 | | DECCXL::WIBECAN | That's the way it is, in Engineering! | Fri Feb 28 1997 17:05 | 9 |
| >> I think the Jem'Hdr are quite in character in this episode, contrary to what a
>> couple others said.
Just to set the record straight, I also think the Jem'Hadar were in character,
and I like how they are being portrayed. My original comments on the subject
were responded to with "I too think the writers are going overboard..." I
don't think they are going overboard at all.
Brian
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