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Title:Equine Notes Conference
Notice:Topics List=4, Horses 4Sale/Wanted=150, Equip 4Sale/Wanted=151
Moderator:MTADMS::COBURNIO
Created:Tue Feb 11 1986
Last Modified:Thu Jun 05 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:2080
Total number of notes:22383

2053.0. "Was it correct not to buy?" by FOUNDR::CRAIG () Tue Sep 10 1996 02:11

Hello,

I'm in the market for a horse, and I checked out a 12-year-old Morgan 
gelding (papers in order) who was going for $5K.  Everything about him
seemed great, but both my instructor and I felt something was just slightly
wrong at the trot. Since I've been riding quarter horses mostly, I thought
I was just a little sensitive to a less-smooth ride. 

Anyway, we got the horse vetted, and he tested postive for flexion in his 
RR, the cause being a bone spavin according to the vet.  I was heartbroken 
because I really liked the horse.  On the lunge line he'd adjust the timing 
of his gait so his RR would stay on the ground for as short a time as 
possible.  I guess this was why it was so difficult to pin down what was 
amiss -- it wasn't rally a limp but rather a "timing problem."

The reasons I didn't want the horse, especially at $5K, were that I know 
I'd want to show him in local shows and he'd automatically be at the bottom
of the class in the ring because of his gait; I know I'd want to ride him a
lot, at least a couple of hours every day (he *loves* to go on trail
rides); and finally of course he couldn't be bred and therefore could turn
out to be an "expensive dog" (my instructor's expression) in a few years if
the condition became arthritic.  (And I didn't want to have to keep juicing
him up on drugs for pain caused by the condition.) 

I was going to offer MUCH less but I didn't want to insult the owner, so I 
walked away from the deal.  

Did I do the right thing?  Or am I still living in the '70s by expecting a 
$5K horse to be able to walk/trot without problems and to be able to pass a 
vet check?

If I was wrong, lay it on.  I can take it.  I want to buy a horse and 
therefore I need to know if my metrics are skewed and my expectations too 
high.

Thanks in advance,
Craig Pahigian
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2053.1good choiceMTADMS::DOUGLASTue Sep 10 1996 09:5916
    Hi Craig,
    
    I think you made a good decision not to buy that particular horse.
    A vet check is wise when buying a horse at that price. Going against
    the vet's findings and buying the horse anyway could be a grave 
    error on your part.
    
    I agree with your trainer, a lame horse costs as much to feed as
    a healthy one.
    
    There are so many 100% sound horses out there for half that price,
    keep looking.
    
    Tina
     
    
2053.22centsPASTA::PIERCEThe Truth is Out ThereTue Sep 10 1996 14:588
    
    Craig, I to think you did the right thing.  For the kind of riding you
    want to do, you need to start off w/a sound horse - enought things can
    go wrong w/ a horse with out starting off w/ a problem - and I agree
    100% for 5K this horse should be able to walk, trot and canter w/no
    problem.
    
    lou
2053.3No bagain!DECWET::JDADDAMIOThink softlyTue Sep 10 1996 16:404
    Unsound riding horses are not worth $5,000.00 no matter how easy to get 
    along with they are. There are *many* completely sound, sensible Morgan
    horses for sale at much lower prices. Some as low as $2,000, at least
    if I believe the for sale ads in the Morgan newsletters!
2053.4Me too!MTCLAY::COBURNPlan B FarmTue Sep 10 1996 18:168
That may not be much money to others, but $5K for a horse to me is
a *lot* of money, and unthinkable for an unsound one.  I've never paid
more than $500 for a horse in the past, and the yearling colt (Morgan)
I'm considering is only $1K.  And I will pass on him if he doesn't
vet with flying colors!

Defineatly you did the right thing! Keep looking and keep your 
standards up!
2053.5Be PatientCSLALL::THOMPSONTue Sep 10 1996 19:0915
    I also agree with the others.  I have been looking for a horse for
    several months along with a few other people at my barn. Of the
    potential horses to be bought we found two horses with Navicular, one 
    with a tumor, and one who the buyer didn't bother to xray (the horse 
    was selling for $10k and failed the flexion test on two legs.)
    
    Vetting gets expensive but after what I have seen lately I would
    encourage everyone to vet a horse before buying, even young horses.
    The horse that had a tumor was a 3 yr. old.  In this case, as
    with many, the owner wasn't aware of the problem. 
    
    Be patient, it may take awhile before you find the horse you are
    looking for! 
    
    Andrea
2053.6there are plenty of sound horses aroundNETCAD::MORENZJoAnne Morenz NPE Network ManagementWed Sep 11 1996 16:3815
If you are patient and shop around - should should be able to find a very sound
horse for $5K.

Depending on what your needs are as far as the horse's level of training - you
can find them for alot less (greenies being less expensive).

Beware of farms where the person doing the selling tries to lay the old - "in
*your* price range you can't expect too much". Alot of people pay alot of money
for broken horses because some locked-jawed "Brahmin" challenged their ego ;-)

Stick with your instructor - you'll find a nice horse. If you are looking for
Morgans I know a good breeder who sells some nice ones. Send me mail offline and
I'll give you her name.

	Good Luck! 
2053.7There's not a lot of sound horses for saleLJSRV1::SCHLENERThu Sep 19 1996 16:0524
2053.8Maybe this time...FOUNDR::CRAIGFri Sep 20 1996 18:1439
2053.9good newsLJSRV1::SCHLENERMon Sep 23 1996 16:5210
2053.10great time to buyNETCAD::MORENZJoAnne Morenz NPE Network ManagementMon Sep 23 1996 20:0711
2053.11Guess who I found?FOUNDR::CRAIGFri Oct 11 1996 11:1339
2053.12Mee TooTUXEDO::MURTHAWed Nov 20 1996 21:2472