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Title:Equine Notes Conference
Notice:Topics List=4, Horses 4Sale/Wanted=150, Equip 4Sale/Wanted=151
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Created:Tue Feb 11 1986
Last Modified:Thu Jun 05 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:2080
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1872.0. "Bone Chips and Suspensory Injuries" by MROA::LEMIRE () Sun Apr 03 1994 19:20

    I just got the bad news that my 11 yr.old TB gelding has
    a couple of bone chips in one hind ankle, and that he has
    injured the suspensory ligaments in the other hind ankle, 
    probably from compensating for the bone chip soreness.
    
    The only clue to these injuries was the last couple of weeks
    my trainer thought "something" was bothering him, even though
    he looked sound.  We had noticed his hind ankles stocking up
    a bit (nothing really grotesque), which hadn't happened in
    the previous six months since I bought him.  The only other clue
    I had was one time in riding him a week before, he'd kicked out twice 
    when I was cantering, like saying "ouch".
    
    I won't speak to the vet until Monday, since I've been out of
    town, but my understanding is the recommendation is 2 months
    rest for the suspensory, and either rest or surgery on the
    bone chips.  I have major medical coverage for the surgery, so I'm
    inclined to do that since he'll be laid up anyway.   The last
    thing I want is to rest him for two months for the suspensory,
    and then find he needs surgery anyway.
    
    I can't believe we've spent all winter getting both of us in shape
    for show season, and the first day we get to ride outside after such
    a horrible winter, he's on stall rest!  Mostly this winter we've worked
    on the flat, trotting poles, and small gymnastics, building up his
    neck, back, and hind end.  The vet says he could've gotten the bone
    chips anywhere - in his stall, working, turned out, and would not
    necessarily have noticed that he had hurt himself.
    
    Anyone with experience with either of these injuries who could relay
    their tales, advice (especially on the surgery)?  I guess some bone
    chips are so deep that there can be more damage from the surgery, but
    if they're easy to get at, it's best to remove them.  These two chips
    are about the size of a pinhead.
    
    Thanks,
    
    Jennie
                                     
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1872.1sounds like the right thing to doELMAGO::HBUTTERMANMon Apr 04 1994 15:3718
    
    	Jennie.. I have a friend here in Albuquerque who has a TB that
    had arthroscopic surgery on a knee last fall for bone chips - she is
    SOUND as a dollar today - it did require quiet/stall/rest for quite
    a while, but clearly was worth the investment.  There has been so
    much done with that technology these days there is certainly less
    to be concerned with than in the past - and as you mentioned - since
    the suspensorys need a rest ...  
    
    	I guess the only thing I would be asking about is what will the
    stress of surgery do to the *other* leg?  Compensating for pain is
    something we/they all do and sometimes it does cause problems.
    
    	Good luck and let us know...
    
    	holly
    
    
1872.2<update on his/our prognosis>MROA::LEMIREMon Apr 04 1994 23:2118
    Thanks for the vote of confidence on surgery.  I did speak to the
    vet today - both suspensories are injured, and bone chips in one.
    The chips are located in the back top of the pastern, underneath
    the sesamoids, so may be difficult to get at.  She'll have a
    specialist (surgeon) look at the X-rays next week.
    
    The good news is my insurance company is being very supportive.
    
    The bad news is the vet says we are probably looking at SIX months
    of rest and recuperation!  So, I'm considering stopping riding
    myself to let my own injured back heal properly, and also to see
    if those are really bone spurs in my own ankle causing me all
    that pain when I ride (so maybe I should have surgery!).  Then
    my horsey and I can recuperate together!
    
    Regards,
    
    Jennie
1872.3sounds like a plan!ELMAGO::HBUTTERMANTue Apr 05 1994 13:329
    
    	Sounds like a plan.....  let us know what you decide and how
    	things go.
    
    	We'll be rooting for you and your horse!
    
    	smiles - h
    
    
1872.4exDECWET::JDADDAMIOSeattle Rain Festival: 1/1-12/31Tue Apr 05 1994 17:275
    Judging by what I've read about this procedure, 6 months is common 
    for recuperation after bone chip removal.
    
    Good luck,
    john
1872.5SUSPENSORY INJURY NOT THE ENDMROA::LEMIRETue Aug 20 1996 20:1740
    Just an update on my TB horse whom I wrote about in 94 and 95 - he had
    suffered an injury of bonechips in a hind ankle and both hind
    suspensory ligaments and a tiny hole in a flexor tendon.  He
    ended up with 12+ months off, but lots of turn-out.  The
    advice on returning him to work slowly was taken, we walked him
    for a few weeks, then started trots, after a couple of months
    some canter, etc.  I had just had a baby when he came back into
    work, so had a dressage trainer riding him most of the time.  She really 
    did wonders bringing him back to work, and even took him to a schooling 
    show where he did respectably.  
    
    Since then, I sent him back to my old hunter barn, where he was
    half-leased for about 6 months by a not quite beginner, who loved
    him, riding dressage seat.  During this time, he has been for sale,
    but no hard bites.  He has been sound throughout, thank goodness!
    
    Now, since he's so sound, we started jumping him again about 8
    weeks ago, just over cross rails.  So far, so good, and I'm hoping
    that we may be able to add jumping to his repertoire for future
    lookers.  He is getting back into his rhythmic jumping style that
    he once did so well on the hunt course.  And he is still extremely
    comfortable to ride.
    
    Just wanted everyone to know that this injury didn't end his career,
    and if anyone knows of anyone looking for a nice horse with his
    capabilities, send them my way!  With a child now, I just don't
    have the time to put into riding that I should, and my husband is
    anxious to cut the expenses.  Maybe in a few years we'll get a pony?
    (I try not to say that around my husband!)
    
    Regards,
    
    Jennie
    
    
    Regards,
    
    Jennie