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Title:Equine Notes Conference
Notice:Topics List=4, Horses 4Sale/Wanted=150, Equip 4Sale/Wanted=151
Moderator:MTADMS::COBURNIO
Created:Tue Feb 11 1986
Last Modified:Thu Jun 05 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:2080
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1778.0. "Videocameras/videotaping renting/sharing in NH-MA area" by DCEIDL::HOOT::WILPOLT () Mon Jul 26 1993 17:29

Couldn't find any topics on videocameras and associated issues for filming 
horses, so here goes... Pardon me if the editing doesn't turn out right--
I'm editing on a PC and haven't figured out yet why some of my notes don't
get posted with the right character and line spacing.

I have been looking at horses to buy-- off and on-- for a while now,
as some of you know!  I'm not quick to make decisions, obviously, but
I'm learning a lot and know more about what I like.

This time around I borrowed a videocamera and am videotaping all the horses
I try out.  Much easier on my memory!!  I still screw up sometimes-- 
like recently I transferred a tape of a nice candidate to my VHS tape
of candidates, but I put it ON TOP of the previous best candidate!
Oh well.

Anyway, the friends who loaned me the wonderful little handi-cam
asked to have it back, so now I'm considering buying one.  Theirs was
a great little tiny Sony 8X high-8 camera that films indoor halls
and dark barns as if they were in full daylight (1-lux, probably).
It's a breeze to run, doesn't need a tripod, zooms in nicely, acts 
like a VCR for replay to a TV, easy to transfer onto a VHS tape if
desired.  Costs about $900.  Much nicer in many ways than my instructor's
older style camera that takes a VHS tape.

So here are my two questions:

1. If I buy a camera like this, and am willing to rent it out, what kind of
   terms and price would be reasonable?  I'd like it to be really cheap, so that
   people can affort to borrow it, and I can amortize the cost, but I'd like to
   be able to recover the cost if they break or lose it.  

2. Does anyone in the NH-MA area already have a not-too-old camera that they'd
   share or rent?

--carrie
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1778.1Yellow Pages?DECWET::JDADDAMIOSeattle Rain Festival: 1/1-12/31Mon Jul 26 1993 18:0013
    One way to find an answer to Question #1(How much to charge) is through
    the phone book! I just took a quick look in the Seattle Yellow Pages
    and found several places that rent videocameras. If you look in you're
    local equivalent, you're likely to find some places that rents
    videocameras.
    
    You could rent the model you're thinking of buying from them and:
    	1) evaluate the camera before you buy one.
    	2) check out their prices and terms for getting damages if lost,
    broken stolen etc.
    
    That would give you an idea of what the top price is anyway. You can
    set you're rates accordingly if you decide to rent out your new camera.
1778.2FYITERSE::FANTOZZITue Jul 27 1993 14:177
    
    I have a friend who does this for people. In fact, she videotapes my
    lessons for me and she does others at the barn for a very reasonable
    price.
    
    Mary
    
1778.3videocamera person's time would have to be cheapADSERV::HOOT::WILPOLTTue Jul 27 1993 15:5121
Mary,
  What does she charge you, if anything?

  One complication of either hiring someone to do this,
  or in providing that service to others, is that it 
  requires 'dedicated time' of the videotape person.

  For example, I doubt that she would want to accompany
  me all over New England to tape horses that I am considering
  buying. (But I am grateful that some of my friends are willing
  to do so!!)  Similarly, I'm happy to videotape my friends or
  others at nearby facilities, but for something like a horse
  show, it's more convenient just to let the folks take the
  machine.

  (It's possible to get sellers of horses to send videotapes,
   but often they are too frustrated by the number of tapes they
   have to send out, the limited response they get from doing so,
   and the loss of all the tapes that aren't returned!  )

--carrie
1778.4Going rates for rentals... and deposits.ADSERV::HOOT::WILPOLTTue Jul 27 1993 16:5429
  Just to follow up on the video-camera rental info...

  I called a few places that rent camcorders or videocameras.

  Rates seem to be from $20 to $35 per day, $30 to $65 for a 
  weekend, $80 to $100 for a week.  The places I called
  require a $400 or $500 deposit.  None of the 4 places I 
  called had top-of-the-line equipment like the one I
  borrowed... but they sounded like they'd be OK for outdoor
  filming within a medium-sized arena.  They all recorded
  on VHS tapes, which is sometimes an advantage, though I
  am getting addicted to the newer camcorders' picture quality!

  Most places charged more for weekend use.

  I was disappointed that the sales place I called didn't 
  have any arrangements for 'trial' usage of the newer equipment,
  even if you were planning to buy, though they did rent the
  older equipment. But then, I didn't call more than one sales place.

  If I were to rent equipment out, and asked for a big check as a
  deposit, is there anything to calm my fears that the person
  might not even have that much $$ in their account? I pretty
  much trust that people wouldn't steal the equipment, but I'd
  hate to have to work to recover the money if the machine got
  stomped on and they didn't actually have the money.

--carrie
1778.5Try the photo notes file tooMCIS3::ROSTANZOTue Jul 27 1993 20:046
    
    There is a photo noters file which could probably afford you more
    help too....... I'll have to check on where it is.....
    
    Nancy
    
1778.6Photo noteMCIS3::ROSTANZOTue Jul 27 1993 20:053
    
    Geoff::photo
    
1778.7She is starting a businessTERSE::FANTOZZIFri Jul 30 1993 14:468
    
    She charges me $10.00 for a lesson. She is starting a business up doing 
    this for people.
    
    If you want more information, contact me via mail TERSE::FANTOZZI.
    
    Mary
    
1778.8Thanks MaryMR4DEC::LPIERCEHELLO....AGAINMon Aug 02 1993 16:4416
    
    Thanks Mary!
    
    I am the one Mary was talking about.  I was going to start a 
    business w/ a freind.  It was my idea.  We video all horses for
    sale in New England and we rent you the vidoe's of horse for sale
    for a small fee.  (just like house shopping now) well, she got
    the buyout from DEC and she decided to take my idea and run away
    with it.  
    
    But I am still doing this on a smaller scale.  I will go and
    vidoe your lessons and I will go and vidoe your horse's for sale
    so you can send buyers the tape... or I will go w/ you to vidoe
    a horse you would like to buy.
    
    Louisa