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Title:Equine Notes Conference
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Created:Tue Feb 11 1986
Last Modified:Thu Jun 05 1997
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1581.0. "Damaged sesamoidal ligament" by CHEFS::GOUGH () Tue Jan 14 1992 12:58

    My pony Robbie has damaged his off-fore distal (sp?) sesamoidal
    ligament; the ligament which holds the sesamoid bone in place.
    
    
    The treatment is at least 2 weeks box rest, with short daily walks -
    any trotting could cause permanent lameness.  He will then be turned
    out and rested for three to six months.
    
    I'd never heard of this type of lameness until today, so any
    information at all would be welcome.  Does anyone have any experience
    of it, and did the horse recover fully?
    
    Incidentally, Robbie is a 14.1 Highland pony, 14 years old, and
    normally lives out all year, so I'm not looking forward to the box
    rest!  I'm in the UK.
    
    Many thanks, 
    
    Helen. 
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1581.1Sounds familiarDECWET::JDADDAMIOAdmire spirit in horses & women!Tue Jan 14 1992 16:124
    I don't have personal experience with this sort of injury but it sounds
    very similar to what one of our other UK correspondents, Judy Harwood,
    is going through with her mare, Crunchie. She can be contacted at
    SUBURB::HARWOODJ
1581.2We have metSUBURB::HARWOODJJudy Harwood - REO - 830 2879Wed Jan 15 1992 13:1017
    John,
    
    Thank you for the cross-reference.  As it happens Helen and I know each
    other, we also have the debious distinction of having the same vet.
    
    It isn't the same problem.  In Crunchie's case is is an injury to the
    bone.  The result of which can result in boney growths being formed
    which in their turn may interfer with surrounding tendons and
    ligaments.  If this happens then the horse will be permanently lame or
    unlevel, depending on the degree of interference.
    
    
    Robbies injury appears to be the liagment that is attached to the 
    bones.  A more serious problem if not caught in time.  No doubt I'll
    find out more when I see Helen tomorrow (and have read up my books).
    
    
1581.3one successPFSVAX::SANESTISCritter kidsFri Jan 17 1992 10:4110
    I know of only one horse that had this type of injury. It took a bit
    more than a year to come sound again. He was a very active gelding that
    liked to tear around outside and hated to be stalled. The hardest part
    was trying to keep him from re-injury, he liked his girlfriend and
    would run the fence if alone. They actually had to ask a boarder to
    move because her gelding made him fuss too much. Also he was fat, and
    hard to keep weight off, and the vet wanted him slimmer to ease the
    strain. It was his right hind if this helps at all.
    Sandy
    
1581.4sounds familiar ...CHEFS::GOUGHMon Jan 20 1992 09:1910
    Sandy,
    
    Thanks for your reply.  It's nice to know the horse did come sound
    again, but I think I'm going to have the same problems - Robbie is fat,
    and has never been slim (he puts on pounds just looking at grass).  He
    is also used to being turned out, and does not enjoy being stabled. If
    he's turned out alone, or in a field with no grass, he breaks the
    fence!  Spring is going to be great fun!
    
    Helen
1581.5CuriousCGOOA::LMILLERhasten slowlyMon Jan 20 1992 14:283
    Just curious who is your vet.  I used to know quite a few in your area.
    
    Linda
1581.6uk vetCHEFS::GOUGHMon Jan 20 1992 15:194
    Paul Farrington's practice from Highclere.  They have always been very
    good.
    
    Helen
1581.7MAJORS::QUICKFubbMon Jan 20 1992 16:385
    Re .6
    
    Not the cheapest vet I've ever used, but as you say, good.
    
    JJ.
1581.8Rings a bellCGOOA::LMILLERhasten slowlyMon Jan 20 1992 20:573
    The name rings a bell.  Did he ever practice with Scott-Dunn and Ward?
    In, oh God I can't remember, - somewhere in Berkshire (I guess that
    narrows it down!) - Maidens Green??
1581.9'Tis himSUBURB::HARWOODJJudy Harwood - REO - 830 2879Tue Jan 21 1992 07:5713
    re -1.
    Yes, Paul Farrington did once work with Scott-Dunn but later left to 
    form his own practise.
    He is the Olympic Team vet and gets called to be 'on-site' for
    other high profile events. He has three other vets working with
    him and they're all excellent (my opinion).
    
    As to the comment about charges, their basic rate appears to be much
    the same as other vets I've used, but it's the travelling that can 
    cloud the picture.  It's really I suppose the price one sometimes has
    to pay for being choosy.
    
    	Judy
1581.10Sesamoiditis - one case historyCMOTEC::HARWOODJJudy Harwood - REO - 830 2879Wed Feb 26 1992 16:0033
	After 9 months of rest, my pony has been declared chronically 
	lame, and as such unable to perform the functions for which she 
	was insured.  So it looks as if she'll be Pasture Decoration,
        (as John so beautifully decsribed it not too long ago).

	Our problem showed itself as a shortening of her stride, which 
	became very pronounced when asked to work on a circle.
	Close examination by the vet, revealed some discomfort when
	pressure was applied to the area.

	Treatment was box rest, BUTE in the first week, followed by field
	rest for the next few months.  X-rays taken after 7 weeks didn't
	reveal any abnormality.  Further X-rays taken last week show
	that extra bone has been formed on the sesamoid bone.
	This is the anticipated response to damage of this nature.  In
	Crunchie's case it's believed she must have damaged some of the 
	suspensory ligaments that are attached to the sesamoids.  The 
	bodies natural response to this, is to try and effect a repair
	by strengthening those connections that exist and lying down this 
	layer of bone.

	In Crunchies case this hasn't proved to be enough.  She's very
	much improved but still not considered sound.  There must be some
    	fibres of the ligament that are only loosely attached and so being
    	weak, say 'ouch' when asked to work.  After this length of time, 
    	further improvement can't be expected :-(

	Here's hoping that Robbie's problem will make a speedy and better
	recovery.  His isn't an identical problem, so I don't know how
	the body's natural responses will work for him.  
	(Helen - my fingers are crossed for you both).
    
    	Judy