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Title:Equine Notes Conference
Notice:Topics List=4, Horses 4Sale/Wanted=150, Equip 4Sale/Wanted=151
Moderator:MTADMS::COBURNIO
Created:Tue Feb 11 1986
Last Modified:Thu Jun 05 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:2080
Total number of notes:22383

1379.0. "Boarding agreements." by STNDUP::LMCCROSSAN (Time out for a hot fudge sundae) Thu Oct 18 1990 12:28

	Just out of curiosity, how have you determined (as the boarder
	looking to find a place to keep their horse, and the person
	offering boarding services) determine what is contained in the
	boarding agreement?

	As I was re-reading the discussions in 1378, I started wondering
	how each party specifically states exactly what each's
	expectations are? 

	I know there are boarding contracts and such, but how specific
	and detailed are they? Do you find that the agreement is mainly
	based on unwritten expectations or is everything detailed out? Most
	of the boarding contracts that I have signed basically say state
	the fee per month, payable by the 1st or whenever for horse xxx, the
	following y responsibilities are the owner's (shoeing, shots, vet,
	insurance, etc.). 

	Thanks in advance for any replies,

	Linda
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1379.1Based on the few I've seen...CARTUN::MISTOVICHThu Oct 18 1990 15:2114
    Simple boarding agreements that I have seen are 2-3 pages long and
    specify board amount(s), due date, hold harmless/waivers and general
    care to be received, the amount of notice due, etc.
    
    I have seen boarding contracts up to 6 pages long, with clauses such as
    (and this is paraphrased) "if you sell your horse while boarded at XXX
    Stable, XXX Stable is entitled to 20% of sale price."  One of my
    favorites (and a place I looked at last weekend) had a hold harmless
    "for injury, illness or death due to owner's and workers negligence."  
    It also had a hold harmless in case of fire...pretty standard, except 
    the owner was walking around inside the barn with a cigarette hanging 
    out of her mouth!  
    
    
1379.2DASXPS::LCOBURNIf it works, break it.Thu Oct 18 1990 15:4411
    The few I've seen were similar to what was described in .1, except
    that they also included a list of barn rules for all boarders to
    abide by. Myself personally, I would be leary of a barn that did
    not require protective headgear for anyone mounted, and I would
    not sign anything that did not include specifics about who and
    who was not allowed to handle my horse. I've seen so many barns
    that use boarders horses in lessons, and I know this is a common
    arrangement that helps the boarded with costs, but in my own
    particular instance no one but no one rides my horse without
    my being present and I'd want it in a contract, just in case.
    
1379.3What type of coverage for a boarding farm?STNDUP::LMCCROSSANTime out for a hot fudge sundaeThu Oct 18 1990 15:519
	Also, what type of insurance do boarding stables need to have vs.
	should have? I boarded at one place (many years ago) which I didn't
	realize was completely uninsured for anything. I didn't know that
	until long after I moved out, but it made me wonder what would
	have happened of there had been a fire or something terrible like
	that...

	Linda
1379.4CARTUN::MISTOVICHThu Oct 18 1990 15:577
    re: .2
    
    Speaking of rules, I've started making it a point to ask if they have
    rules and what they are.  Sometimes the owners get a little defensive,
    until they realise that I'm relieved that they do have rules!  Given a
    choice, I'll take a degree of regiment over the chaos that I've
    sometimes had to survive any day!!!
1379.5just thought I'd ask...CSCMA::SMITHThu Oct 18 1990 17:386
    Just curious, but why would a boarding place feel that they should
    be entitled to a percentage of your profit if you decided to sell
    your horse?  If they sold it for you, of course they would be, but
    if you just sold it without their assistance?                 
    This really sounds a bit greedy!
    Sharon
1379.6TOMLIN::ROMBERGhow long 'til the next holiday?Thu Oct 18 1990 17:4714
re: .5
>   Just curious, but why would a boarding place feel that they should
>    be entitled to a percentage of your profit if you decided to sell
>    your horse?  If they sold it for you, of course they would be, but
>   if you just sold it without their assistance?                 
>    This really sounds a bit greedy!
>    Sharon


Because, they figure that by letting you use their facilities (ring, jumps, 
etc.), they ARE helping you sell your horse.  Also, who's liable if your 
customer should get hurt while riding your horse on their property?  Not that I
condone the practice (I don't), but I believe this is their reasoning, or at 
least part of it.
1379.7Any good books on doing this?PHAROS::FANTOZZITue Jan 05 1993 18:0110
    
    
    Are there any books out there that deal with boarding? If I got a
    house with a barn and wanted to rent a stall or two, is there anything
    out there that is published that would help me to ddo that?
    
    Thanks,
    
    Mary