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Title:Equine Notes Conference
Notice:Topics List=4, Horses 4Sale/Wanted=150, Equip 4Sale/Wanted=151
Moderator:MTADMS::COBURNIO
Created:Tue Feb 11 1986
Last Modified:Thu Jun 05 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:2080
Total number of notes:22383

1284.0. "Herd Bound Horses at Shows" by DASXPS::KUTASH () Wed Jun 06 1990 16:48

    Hi,
    
    I hope someone can help me with this problem.  I am having a problem
    with my Appy Mare.  Whenever I work her at home she is great, she
    is real responsive to my leg, etc.  Whenever I take her to a show
    she goes nuts.  It's like she is terrified.  She has been shown
    for three years now and she still panicks, and unfortunatly she
    seems to be getting worse.  I always get to the show early so I
    can warm her up but that doesn't help.  Last weekend I rode her
    for at least 2 hours before my class and she was still a basket
    case.  Another problem, the horse I have to show with now is her
    mother.  My horse would not stop whinying to her mom and all she
    would do is follow her around the ring. (In the class!!)  I used
    to go to shows with her 1/2 brother and she never acted like this.
    Recently he died after surgery (tumor on his intestine).  I was
    wondering if this could be having some sort of effect on her.  All
    three of them were boarded together and go out in the same corral.
    My mare seems to be alot closer to her mother since the death of
    the other horse.  Unfortunatly due to the fact that we only have
    2 corrals there is no way I can seperate them.  Someone suggested
    that I get my mare out on the trails by herself.  Which sounds like
    a good idea but I am kind of nervous about being out on the trails
    alone.  I realize I must also be patient with her at shows and not
    to be nervous myself.  But it's difficult to be patient when you
    have been riding for 2 hours and she still won't listen to a thing
    you say.  All she could do is look for her mother.  Then when I
    tried to force her away from her she kept rearing up.  All in all
    it was a rough day.  I ended up getting thrown, breaking a finger,
    and making a fool out of myself.  I have been working her for months
    now and she is doing excellent.  But I am getting sick of seeing my 
    hard work go to waste.  Every show it's the same thing.  She is also
    5 years old so there is no excuse for her behavior.  I haven't been
    up to see her since the show.  I'm so disgusted with the whole thing
    I don't know what to do.  I know I would be doing really well with
    her if she would just forget about everything that is going on around
    her.  Everyone always tells me what a beautiful mover she is,
    unfortunaly the judge never gets to see it.
    
    Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated!!
    
    Andrea
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1284.1One thought..PFSVAX::PETHCritter kidsWed Jun 06 1990 17:018
    Have you tried taking her to shows but not showing her? It could
    be the atmosphere is too exciting for her to concentrate. You could
    take her to watch just leading her around not riding her at all. After
    a few times she might get used to the activity and be responsive to
    you instead of insecure and trying to stick by Mommy. If you are
    getting frustrated and upset with her she might feel that shows are
    frighting because you seem upset to her.
    Sandy
1284.2DELNI::KEIRANWed Jun 06 1990 17:494
    I would try taking her to the shows without her Mom, that way she
    won't have any other horse to look for.  My mare always acted foolish
    on trail rides with her best friend there, but when I took her alone
    she was fine.
1284.3Try fooling them???DASXPS::ZBROWNThu Jun 07 1990 16:0415
    
    
    	I had the same problem years ago with my other horse.  He and
    	my moms mare were very attached to each other.  I brought them
    	both to a show together so another 4-H memebr could use her
    	but it was impossible for me to ride that day!  It was AWFUL...
    	After that I decided to truck them down in different trailers
    	and tried not to bumb into each other at the show and then both
    	of them were fine.  The funny thing was if you took them alone
    	to the show they were *GREAT* but if they knew the other horse
    	was there forget it...:-(
    
    	Hope you work something out!

    	Zina
1284.5LUDWIG::ROCKMon Jun 11 1990 17:2527
    I agree with the last reply. I was going to write and suggest that
    you move one of the horses to a new location for a while. I would
    move the more that is giving you the hard time. it would be good
    for her. 
    
    I have a gelding that is not as bad as what you discribe but he
    has become herd bound to being out with his mother and aunt...
    he is fine at home and on the trails and was good at the shows until
    last year and now he gets cranky and upset and shake in the trailer
    and while at the shows etc.
    
    i have removed him from being out with the girls and now have him
    in a pasture with my ponies and my colt. I do not know if this will
    help his bad attitude towards other horses. 
    
    I sent him to 4-h camp last summer and he hated it. He would not
    eat or drink. I left him and after two or three days he finally
    got a little better and then it was time to come home. I wish he
    had stayed for the summer!!! He mainly got upset because one of
    the mare of mine was there with him and he did not like her leaving
    with out him or another horse getting near her.
    
    Good luck....
    
    stick with it. appy's can be stubbin. I know that is what I have.
    
    tr
1284.6You too? COMICS::PEWTERTue Jun 12 1990 14:1422
Your note sounds horribly familiar! My mare is a ratbag at shows. If she
goes with another horse she has a fit when it goes out of sight for a
second. Many times I have nearly followed a friend round the ring when
they are competing. Once my daughter rode her in the fancy dress whilst
the horse we travelled with was in another ring, it took me three packs
of polo's to keep her from stomping over the shetlands! You end up a 
nervous wreck. And she won't shut up, always calling to every other
horse. It's all very well saying stay calm but it is not that easy. And
going to shows alone is not much fun.  She is the type of horse who does
get attached to other horses, although not to the extent that she can't
be taken away from them for riding etc. Unfortunately you have to be very
priviledged to have the luxury of being able to spend enough time with
your horse in order to become another member of their herd, so they
become more attached to you than one of their own kind. Also, most people
have to board their animals with others for economic reasons.  You rarely
see small ponies and school children having problems simply because they
are able to spend so much time together and become great friends. 

If you are that keen I suppose going it alone often enough would solve
the problem. Personally, I'm past the stage of desperately wanting to
compete and would rather settle for the quiet life!

1284.7I HATE SCENES TOO! DON'T GIVE UP!WFOV12::NOLLWed Jun 20 1990 14:1123
    
    
    HI!  I AGREE WITH THE ANSWERS YOU HAVE ALREADY RECEIVED.  ESPECIALLY
    GETTING OUT ON YOUR OWN WITH ONLY THAT ONE HORSE.  TAKE THAT HORSE
    TO THE SHOWS JUST TO LEAD THEM AROUND FOR THE DAY.  TRAILER, IF
    YOU CAN BY YOURSELF!  AT HOME, CAN YOU PUT THE OTHERS IN AND TRY
    THE SAME THING ALONE OUT IN THE RING/FIELD THAT YOU HAVE?  TAKE
    IT SLOW, A LITTLE BIT AT A TIME.
    
    I HAVE AN APPY. MARE, 3 YR. OLD MORGAN FILLY, AND A MORGAN/WELSH
    CROSS.  THE APPY. HAD BEED THROUGH 7 HOMES BEFORE I HAD BOUGHT HER
    AND WAS AN ABUSED HORSE.  RIDING IN GENERAL WAS AN UNPLEASANT
    EXPERIENCE FOR HER....I SUPPOSE SHE EXPECTED IT TO BE UNPLEASANT.
    AFTER STARTING AT THE BEGINNING AND WORKING MY WAY SLOWLY ---SHE
    HAS COME A LONG WAY!  NOW SHE IS WORKING BOTH WAYS OF THE RING....ALONE
    AS WELL AS TRAIL RIDING....ALONE....AND ENJOYING IT....PRIOR TO
    THAT I HAD THE SAME PROBLEMS, REARING, BALKING, ALL KINDS OF
    FOOLISHNESS SINCE SHE DID NOT WANT TO LEAVE THE OTHERS.  I THINK
    A KEY THING IS "TAKE YOUR TIME"!  START BY LEADING THAT HORSE
    EVERYWHERE ALONE.  THEN MOUNT UP AND TAKE IT AT THE WALK....AND
    SO ON!  GOOD LUCK!
    
    
1284.8WFOV12::NOLLWed Jun 20 1990 14:123