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| 1264.1 | Try wrapping the bit | NIKKII::TRESEDER | | Mon May 14 1990 22:36 | 7 |
| You might want to try wrapping the bits with latex. On the curb,
wrap each side of the port ... I usually wrap it about three or four
times around. And do the same thing on the snaffle. Also, if you
use a curb chain, wrap that too.
Good luck, it's really a pain trying to get a horse's head in when
he doesn't want to do it!
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| 1264.2 | lots of things to consider... | DNEAST::BUTTERMAN_HO | | Tue May 15 1990 15:24 | 27 |
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There are a couple of things that come to mind... the first thing
to consider is 'what your horse is trying to avoid or get away from' by
raising his head and sticking his nose out. Is it real (his mouth
HURTS - either from previous damage - or maybe his teeth need to be
tended to) or is it something he learned (his previous owner might have
used a very tight caveson to keep this mouth closed - or maybe they
used a harsh(er) bit and hurt him...)
They almost always are trying to give us a message... before you
try and fix this situation take a long look at what some of the causes
might be. Latex, softer bits, tooth fairies... all possibilities.
I think the things I would do are physically check his teeth and
gums, tongue and mouth... if there is nothing obvious then I would work
the horse from the ground w/a fat snaffle and bitting harness... the
other thing that needs to be observed is the potential for pain in his
back... Often when a horses back hurts, they will try and position
themselves in a manner which avoids the pain... check your saddle as
well to make sure it isn't pinching him anywhere.
Once you determine what is causing the problem you can work towards
helping your horse understand that it isn't going to hurt any longer.
Good luck - let us know how you make out - regards - holly
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| 1264.3 | could be a number of causes | CARTUN::MISTOVICH | | Tue May 15 1990 16:20 | 7 |
| My last horse would not flex at the poll unless I took a very firm
contact. Anything less and the nose would go up and out. She liked
the feeling of support and also needed a lot of leg to drive her
forward. A lot depends on what their used to, plus every individual
is different. You may ride very differently from his previous owner.
Mary
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| 1264.4 | I dont think it is his mouth. | DISCVR::HERRON | | Wed May 16 1990 03:13 | 30 |
| RE. Holly, I have checked his mouth out pretty well and I could not see
anything wrong. But I'm going to have him checked by the vet to be on
the safe side. I have run my fingers down his back and applied various
amounts of pressure on his back. He seems fine, didn't even put an ear
back to me. I think he is expecting to be "pulled in" all the time.
For the first two weeks we didn't get past mounting without him getting
all tensed up. You could actually see him getting nervous. Like I said
before the woman was very heavy and she most likley really had to pull
herself in the saddle. So we spent a couple of weeks with me with just
one foot in the sturrip talking to him trying to get him to stand still
and relax, then we graduated to half way mounted, and now we are at the
point where he is relaxed but will still take one tiny step.
Do you think that this might have anything to do with his head being
high? : They tried to make him do dressage, pulled his head up and in,
but every time they worked him out he came up lame. (Wich is wy I ended
up with him). Now, his front legs are crooked, and they tried to make
him straight. When I got him his shoe size was way to small. He
actually had corns because of it, and he was reluctant to step out.
Gee I wonder why!!! Anyway (I'm getting lost here) the poor guy went
bear foot for a while and now im trying to widen his feet.
He is just a big lovable mess! No really he is a Ryker bred horse with
alot of heart and potential. I was thinking about taking him for a
massage therapy session. Have I made any sense here or does this sound
like a lot of babbling? Cause when it comes to my "boys" I tend to
ramble on!
Now, he has crooked
front legs (witch is why I have
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| 1264.5 | Don't think it's his mouth either | DECWET::DADDAMIO | Testing proves testing works | Wed May 16 1990 20:20 | 21 |
| We have a horse who threw his head up when we first got him. He had
been shipped around to various trainers to try to sell him and everyone
tried to get him to do 2nd and 3rd level dressage movements. He was
trained in dressage and we had seen his owner ride him - he was very
nice and fairly talented. The trainers did get him to do lateral work,
etc., but he wasn't quite ready for it and it blew his mind. He also
had a very sensitive back.
We have to be careful with him, but he is a lot better after years of
work. He kept throwing his head up and hollowing his back to evade the
rider's aids. Now he will willingly keep his back round and stay on
the bit.
A friend of ours has had Robert Altman (trained by Jack Meagher) do
massage on her horse for several years and he has helped the horse a
lot. I think someone trained in massage could help find what muscles
are actually bothering the horse and show you what to do between
massages to help the horse. Sounds like it's not his mouth, but his
body (and maybe his mind) that's the problem.
Jan
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| 1264.6 | Where is he? | DISCVR::HERRON | | Thu May 17 1990 20:20 | 9 |
| Would you happen to have Roberts number? I have had Jack up to my house
and he was wonderful! But, he has such a busy schedual that it is hard
for him to fit me in. I live in Epping NH (approx 25 mins from
Haverhill Mass), which tends to scare people away.
Jack came up and worked on another charity case I used to have and he
was great, really worked miricals with him.
Thanks for the help!!!
Robin
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| 1264.7 | Ed Lamb, message | REGENT::WIMBERG | | Fri May 18 1990 13:39 | 17 |
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I have the number of another message therapist trained by Jack Meagher.
He is just starting his horse message business and is looking for
work. Ed Lamb is located in Littleton MA. I don't know if he'd be
willing to go Epping NH but you could always ask. His number is
(508) 264 4445.
He also has a beeper number - 1 800 202 7854
As for your horse - it sounds a little bit like a condition known as
a 'cold back'. The horse drops his back and raises his head until
he warms up usually at that point the back starts coming back up and
he starts to use it and lowering the head. Your horse probably doesn't
because of the other problems.
Good luck
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| 1264.8 | that's massage | REGENT::WIMBERG | | Fri May 18 1990 13:42 | 5 |
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OK - I can't spell - but Ed really is a massage therapist not a
message therapist
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| 1264.9 | I'm going to call him | DISCVR::HERRON | | Sat May 19 1990 03:01 | 6 |
| thanx to all of you for trying to help me out. I am going to give Ed
a call on sat. I hope I can get some one out soon! I just had him shod
again and thing are looking great in that area, FINALLY!
Thanx again I will keep y'all posted on our progress.
Robin
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