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Title:Equine Notes Conference
Notice:Topics List=4, Horses 4Sale/Wanted=150, Equip 4Sale/Wanted=151
Moderator:MTADMS::COBURNIO
Created:Tue Feb 11 1986
Last Modified:Thu Jun 05 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:2080
Total number of notes:22383

1185.0. "?? on haying (vs. pasturing)" by FRAGLE::PELUSO (There's ALWAYS room for ONE more) Mon Feb 19 1990 12:00

    How many bales of hay can one get from an acre of land (average # is
    fine)- per cutting?
    
    I understand it depend on how well the field has been maintained,
    but I'm assuming that if one would hay a field for horses, they
    would maintain it properly.  
    
    What are associated costs with the maintainance of said fields and
    haying process.
    
    Any experiences in working with a local farmer (who would have all
    the equipment to hay in the first place).
    
    Any arguments regarding keeping the field as pasture vs. haying it?
    
    Thanks-
    
    Michele
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1185.126922::LCOBURNMon Feb 19 1990 13:0820
    Can't say as this will help you or not, but as a child I grew up
    on a farm. We ourselves rented out our hay fields to another nearby
    farmer, in lieu of money we kept enough of the bales to feed my
    horse ( I generally only had one at a time) through the winter.
    In the summer the horse had pasture (a different field) and did
    not get hay. The fields that were hayed out were about 5 acres each,
    what we kept was a very small portion of the resulting harvest.
    The pasture that the horse was on in summer was actually two seperate
    fields (it was a rather big farm) that together were I'd guess about
    9-10 acres of grass. A neighboring farmer actually worked his land
    and raised beef cattle, he hayed his fields himself...it was great
    fun, we used to ride the hay wagons and help out a bit!....and fed
    his cows (about 50) and two saddle horses off it, plus sold the
    excess. His fields were probably 20-25 acres in all. They, too ,
    were kept strictly for hay, the cattle being pastured seperately.
    Sorry I don't know the exact numbers involved, but I do know that
    we never bought hay at all, even in winter, and what we kept was
    just a small portion of what was harvested. I know this is a bit
    vague....
    
1185.2CSC32::M_HOEPNERRemember to drain the swamp...Mon Feb 19 1990 13:5610
    
    I would go to your local Cooperative Extension Service office to 
    get information about forages and such for your area of the country.  
    
    Amount of hay per acre varying widely depending on the types of soil, 
    your weather, what KIND of forage will grow in your area, growing
    season length...
    
    The Extensive Service should have written information as well as an 
    Area Agronomist available.
1185.3{ tiring just writing about it }TOLKIN::SWEENEYMon Mar 19 1990 15:2742
    
    
       We had looked into this, and may still go with it as we have
       a seven acre field that could be used as a hayfield. Our 'research'
       indicated that an average of 100 bales of hay could be gotten
       an acre. (I used number as a 'best case').
    
       If the field contained a poor selection of grasses, it could
       possible require being plowed, harrowed and reseeded, which requires
       a tractor, special equipment and probably several days. Seed
       alone goes for $28.00 to over $100 per acre covered depending
       on mix selected. This would then require a full years growth
       before haying. 
    
       If the field hasn't been worked, but contained a decent grass
       mix, it would most likely require lime. You would have to have
       soil tests done to be absolutely sure, however in the Northeast
       it wouldn't be far fetched to assume you would need 1 1/2 to
       2 tons per acre. This would have to be applied. We found a service
       at local farmers coop that advertised bulk spreading of lime
       for $30 a ton , ten ton minimum. 
    
       Now that the field is in order, haying is the next step.
       Protien availble from cut hay varies greatly as to when it
       is cut. Letting a field go by can decrease available protien
       and nutrion greatly. That's why farmers work such long hours
       getting hay in. We use only first cut hay, so this is done
       sometime in June. You can get up to three cuttings a year,
       usually two though. At this point you may have some bargaining
       power if you find a cow farmer who will cut first time for you
       and take the second cut for his cows. Arrangements like these
       are common and a typical charge would be about 50 cents a bale
       for the farmer to cut your hay. 
    
       Even without the investment of tractors, mowers and balers, it
       may take several years to realize a true savings if the entire
       field needed to be reseeded. You are also at the mercy of the
       person you hire to cut the hay, like everyone else, he may
       do the best job possible or be so slipshod as to drive you nuts.
    
       Visit the extension agent, ask around and have someone look over
       the field to make a better judgement.