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Title:Equine Notes Conference
Notice:Topics List=4, Horses 4Sale/Wanted=150, Equip 4Sale/Wanted=151
Moderator:MTADMS::COBURNIO
Created:Tue Feb 11 1986
Last Modified:Thu Jun 05 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:2080
Total number of notes:22383

1184.0. "springtime shots" by DYO780::AXTELL (Dragon Lady) Wed Feb 14 1990 18:27

    Has anyone had experience with strangles vaccines?  Are they effective
    and for how long?  My vet seems to think it's not worth the expense.
    
    Speaking of vaccines... how about the Potomac Horse Fever vaccines?
    
    			-maureen
    
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1184.1My 2centsTOOK::SCHLENERWed Feb 14 1990 20:289
    I just got the checklist from my vet. Basically, it states what he does
    and what shots he recommends(or doesn't) and why. He didn't believe in
    the Strangles vaccine. He does recommend the Potomac Horse Fever
    vaccine. Just last year a horse came down with it in Hopkinton, Ma.
    
    Jasper got his double shot of it last year (it was the first for that
    vaccine. Now every year he'll get a booster.
    		Cindy
    
1184.2DECXPS::LCOBURNThu Feb 15 1990 10:0720
    At the boarding stable where out TB is, there was an outbreak of
    Strangles about 2.5 years ago. They have been giving the vaccine
    since then. The vet that treated the horses that had it told us
    that older horses, particularly Thoroughbreds or Standardbreds who
    had spent time racing were generally immune without the vaccine.
    My Stdbred mare was stabled there at the time of the outbreak and
    she had no trouble at all, and I don't remember that any of the
    other ex-racers did either....if I remember correctly the 4 horse
    that had it were a 6 year old QH (he had the worst case but recovered
    fully), a 3 year old Morgan cross, and 2 of the barns' school horses
    of unknown origin. Since this has happened, the vet does offer the
    vaccine as an option when they do the yearlys (all 80-90 horses
    are done the same day), but we have never had it for either horse.
    He also offers the Potomac Fever vaccine, and we had that for the
    TB last year because we show him. I did not have it for the Stdbrd
    mare because she lives at home with me now and is rarely exposed
    to other horses. This year I am planning to do both for Potomac
    because both will be shown, but I don't know that anyone at the
    barn is planning the Strangles vaccine.
    
1184.3yWAV14::BETZLThu Feb 15 1990 10:546
    Our horses have been receiving the Potomac for the last
    two years which was recommended by the vet but we have never
    given them a vaccine for strangles......
    
    Lori
    
1184.4no strangle vacc. hereFRAGLE::PELUSOThere's ALWAYS room for ONE moreThu Feb 15 1990 12:027
    our horse will be getting EWT, flu and PHF shots.  The vet felt
    there was no need for strangles - correct me if I'm wrong, it's been
    awhile since the last discussion with him - but if the horse comes 
    down w/ strangles and gets over it, he builds up an immunity toward
    it anyway...???
    
    
1184.5another vet opinionPFSVAX::PETHMy kids are horsesThu Feb 15 1990 14:065
    My vet recommends Strangles vaccine for babies under 4 years old, he
    says that older horses are not at a great risk if they get it, they
    recover fine. It only kills babies. Only my colt gets the shot.
    Sandy
    
1184.6strangles can kill more than babiesDYO780::AXTELLDragon LadyFri Feb 16 1990 13:4411
    A small case of strangles will build lifetime immunity.  Most
    track/show horses get a small case that not more noticeble than
    a cold.  Sometimes it will leave enlarged lymph glands under
    the jaw.
    
    How about rabies?
    
    (Can you tell I'm an overanxious parent?)
    
    -maureen
    
1184.7Cats, Dogs, and Horses!PFSVAX::PETHMy kids are horsesFri Feb 16 1990 16:036
    I get rabies shots for my "kids", I have had problems with raccoons
    coming into the barn after the kitty food. There was a rabid coon found
    two years ago about four miles from my barn, that was too close for me!
    My vet thinks I am a worryer too but he gives anything I ask for.
    Sandy
    
1184.8CSC32::M_HOEPNERRemember to drain the swamp...Sun Feb 18 1990 12:4612
    
    When I still lived in Iowa, all my horses received rabies vaccine.  The
    county I lived in had one of the highest incidences of rabies for the
    entire country.  Plus I three friends who lost horses from rabies.  And
    my uncle lost a couple of cows.  (Unfortunately for all these cases,
    several people had handled each of the victims and had to undergo
    anti-rabies injections.)
    
    Where I am in Colorado, the local health people are not so concerned
    with rabies.  But we are vaccinated for rhino, influenza, VEE, WEE,
    EEE, Tetenus, and Potomac Horse Fever.  (I show lots so the horse needs
    to be covered.)  
1184.9Costs of shots/vaccincationsASD::MCCROSSANThu Apr 04 1991 16:3213
	Here's the quoted prices of shots from the vet at our barn
	for this spring:

	Coggins		$20
	Rhino/flu/EWT	$40 (all combined in 1)
	PHF		$25
	Strangles	$20
	Rabies		$25

	How do these compare? They seemed a bit high to me... :^(

	Linda
1184.11TOMLIN::ROMBERGhow long 'til the next holiday?Thu Apr 11 1991 17:048
Ours were $75 for 
	EEE/WEE/Tetanus	
	Flu/Rhino	
	Rabies		
	Potomac
	Coggins	

It averaged $15/needle hole
1184.12Spring is here...SALEM::ALLOREAll I want is ONE shot..well maybe 2Fri Apr 12 1991 10:185
                My wife and I paid $83.  This was for all the shots,
    tube worming and Peanuts even got his teeth floated.  I'm glad
    MY teeth don't get done that way.....
    
                 Bob
1184.13DELNI::MANDILEwith an eWed Mar 10 1993 16:512
    
     Don't forget to make your spring shot appointment! (8
1184.14How's that? :-)CSLALL::LCOBURNPlan B FarmWed Mar 10 1993 17:013
    Um....make that 'winter' shot appointment. The weather these days,
    winter/snow will be lasting well into May this year. :-)
    
1184.15K's got her'sAIMHI::PMURPHYTue Mar 16 1993 18:495
    
    My mare got her's, including Rabies, Saturday.  Vet got to the barn
    early enough the day of the blizzard to give all the horses their
    shots.
    
1184.16How about those Rhino shots?PMRV70::SWAREFri Mar 22 1996 21:1413
    My stable mates and I were recently discussing our spring shots and I
    mentioned that my horses would be getting Rhino/Flu, EWT, PHF boosters,
    and Rabies.  After I said this, one of the woman said "Why in the world
    are you giving your geldings the Rhino shot.  You really only have to
    give it to a mare."  I didn't really have any response except that my
    vet has been giving my horses the Rhino shot for ten years and if she
    felt it wasn't necessary she probably would tell me so.  Does anyone
    have any take on this?  Does anyone agree with her?  I do know a thing
    or two about horses but I am always amazed at how much I don't know so
    if anyone can give shed some light on this I would really appreciate
    it.
    Thanks
    Sam
1184.17RhinopneumonitisDECWET::JDADDAMIOJog? No, ever see a jogger smile?Sat Mar 23 1996 01:5230
    Sam,
    
    You're right to trust your vet's opinion over that of this woman. She
    is clearly not as informed as she should be. Rhino defintely affects
    both sexes!
    
    Rhino is short for rhinopneumonitis. Literally, that means an
    inflammation of the nasal passages and respiratory system. In other
    words, it's an upper respiratory system infection. Like human colds,
    it is caused by a virus, *HIGHLY CONTAGIOUS*, tends to be mild and lasts 
    about a week...unless there are bacterial complications like pneumonia.
    
    It is a very common disease, especially in young horses. Unfortunately,
    rhino can cause additional problems in adult horses. 
    
    It can cause abortions in pregnant mares which is why this woman said 
    you have to give it to a mare. Or the mare can delivery an infected foal 
    which dies shortly after birth.
    
    Rhino can also cause a neurological disorder in adult horses which has
    symptoms similar to those of encephalomyelitis; namely: staggering,
    lack of coordination and possibly paralysis.
    
    Since the disease can be prevented or reduced in severity by
    vaccination, most vets recommend it. From a horseman's point of view,
    it's a heck of a lot cheaper than treating a horse for the disease,
    especially in the more severe forms or in cases where pneumonia
    develops. The $10(or whatever) is cheap insurance.
    
    John