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Title:Equine Notes Conference
Notice:Topics List=4, Horses 4Sale/Wanted=150, Equip 4Sale/Wanted=151
Moderator:MTADMS::COBURNIO
Created:Tue Feb 11 1986
Last Modified:Thu Jun 05 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:2080
Total number of notes:22383

636.0. "Buying a Horse at Auction/Didnt get Reg Papers" by --UnknownUser-- () Fri Jul 01 1988 13:30

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636.1USADEC::GILLFri Jul 01 1988 13:5321
    Don't lose track of those papers.  If the people you just bought
    him from don't have them, than ask where they got him from.  Quarter
    horse names are most always dirived from the sire or dam.  Pick
    up a Quarter horse jounal, or pick up the Horsemen's Yankee Pedlar,
    or call the Pedlar and talk to Denise she raises Quarter Horses
    and could help you there to. 
    
    I can't emphasize enough about the registration bit.  The horse
    has a history, a name and it is nice to know where he came from
    and who his sire and dam are.  If you want to sell eventually you
    will need the papers anyway.  Is he tatooed somewhere?
    An old dog breeder gave me this advice, never pass the money until
    the papers are passed to you.  The moral, people forget to do it
    leaving you feeling like a pest, or worse they lied and the horse
    is not registered and they inflated the price. 
                                
    How come the people you bought him from didn't tell you his name,
    or did you get him from an auction?
    
    stephanie
    
636.2A name should reflect the horses's personality, IMOMARKER::BUCKLEYits MIDI 4 meFri Jul 01 1988 15:045
    
    Since its a quarter horse, you could think up something relevant
    like Racer X or something.
    
    Buck
636.4HERMES::GILLFri Jul 01 1988 16:266
    Having never bought a horse at an auction, tell me did they allow
    you to have the horse looked at by a vet, or do they give you time
    to do that?  What kind of guarantees are you offered that this horse
    is truly sound and able, or is it buy as you see and take your chances.
    
    Just curious
636.5PBA::KEIRANFri Jul 01 1988 17:1013
    RE .4
    
    A friend of mine bought a QH at that auction in Agawam last year,
    without having it looked at by a vet first.  The person who sold
    her the horse said if it wasn't sound she could bring it back.
    The horse had navicular.  When they brought the horse back to Agawam,
    the guy told them he would send them a check, so they brought the
    horse home.  As it turns out, the horse was pregnant, so now she
    has a new foal and a mare with navicular.  Goes to show ya, you
    can never be too sure about what you are buying!!
    
                                                            
      
636.6Auctions are Risky at BestGENRAL::BOURBEAUFri Jul 01 1988 18:1515
    	Every auction I've ever been to (Other than annual sales by
    breeders) have been buyer beware. Most specify that they are only
    agents,and any agreements or guarantees are between the seller and
    the buyer. You generally don't know what horses will be on the block,
    and don't have the opportunity for a vet check.
    	If you buy at an auction,you try to look them over before the
    sale begins,and take a guess at which one you might want. 
    	There's almost no end to the possible ways that a horse might
    have been drugged,medicated or otherwise treated to hide problems.
    	When I lived back East, I knew several horse traders. Some
    were quite honest, but many would doctor up anything that they
    couldn't get rid of, and take them to the auction.
    
    	George
    
636.8Auctions and Xerox machines.SMAUG::GUNNFri Jul 01 1988 20:3625
    In my early days of riding I went to a number of horse auctions with
    the owner of the stable where I learned to ride. The owner got many of
    his school horses through auctions and was known for his ability to
    pick out horses. His success rate, by my estimate, was 50%. Half the
    horses he bought through an auction turned out to be suitable for a
    riding school or resale as a reasonable horse to a private buyer. The
    other half went back. Since he was a regular customer, some
    "accomodation" was made for these returned horses. 
       
    I would not expect anybody else who was not a regular buyer at auctions
    to approach a 10% success rate. An auction is not the first place
    I would think of if I had a good horse to sell. However, I learned
    quite a bit about the less glamorous side of the horse business
    from going to those auctions. Most of the auctions were in Shrewsbury,
    Ma, in a long closed sales stable off Route 9.
    
    As far as the original point of this note is concerned, choose a name
    for your horse that has some significance for you. Most of my friends
    named their horses this way. As far as registration papers are
    concerned, from what I learned at these auctions, I wouldn't put any
    faith in any papers provided with a horse bought at any auction.
    Whenever the seller represented a particular horse as having papers, I
    knew they had "walked the horse past the Xerox machine". In some cases
    the copying was obvious that even the auctioneer had to describe them
    as photocopies. 
636.9Caveat Emptor, fer sure...USWAV3::BOETue Jul 05 1988 12:3011
    That auction in Agawam is notorious.  If you get a good horse there,
    they're the greatest people in the world.  If you get burned, they'll
    turn the cold shoulder on you so fast...  The kids they use to show
    at the auctions drink beer during the auctions and generally act
    pretty disinterested.  After a friend bought a horse there and had
    to return it because it was lame, he was cautioned by just about
    everybody to steer clear of auctions as a place to buy a good horse.
    
    Re: your base note...don't name your new horse Agawam. :^)
    
    Dave
636.11to late3D::PIERCEFri Jul 22 1988 19:487
    Hi Michele,
    
    I am new to notes and I was just courious on what you named him,
    sorry I did'nt read notes earlier I do have a good names for quarter
    horses.  I'm a quarter horse lover,,
    
    Louisa