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| 519.1 | | CELICA::GOLDMAN | | Tue Mar 08 1988 12:39 | 44 |
| Tina,
This just happened to a friend of mine with her 16.2 TB who is kept
in a 12x12 stall. He got cast about 2 weeks ago. We have no idea
how long he was stuck (he was okay at 8:00 p.m. but was found cast
at 6:30 a.m.) he did a job on his legs. He ended up with about 7 cuts
on them.
Anyway, what his owner decided to do which has seemed to work so
far, is we keep a 5' banking around the walls with shavings and
its about 2' deep. So the actual amount of room the horse has is about
8x8. But it doesn't seem to bother him and he is a lot warmer with
that extra insulation. Also, she raised his water and feed buckets
because when she found him he was kind of stuck underneath them.
It looks something like this:
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Unfortunately, this is pretty expensive at first for all the shavings.
But we are finding that the stall is easier to clean with that small
area in the middle.
I had a 16h Saddlebred that was in a 10x10 stall that got cast once.
But I was lucky that my barn was attached to the house and my bedroom
was close the barn so I could hear her banging soon after it happened
and she never got a scrape.
As far as stall size making a difference, I don't know. I've seen
it happen with two big horses with two different size stalls.
I hope this is of some help.
Sue
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| 519.2 | | CELICA::GOLDMAN | | Tue Mar 08 1988 13:05 | 24 |
| P.S.
As I reread your note I saw one more question I didn't answer.
As far as getting a horse out of being cast. To be honest, before
it happened, I never really thought about what I would do if it
did happened. And when it did happen, I didn't have time to think about
what I wanted to do. I just new I had to get that horse up right
away. Thank God, my horse seemed to know I wanted to help her and
she lay still when I came in. It did take me and another person
to roll her over though. I guess the same thing happened with my
friend's horse. As soon as he saw that she was there he stopped
thrashing and she too had someone there to help her.
Maybe somebody else has had more experience or has taken the time to
think of a solution, sense you can't guarantee that the horse will
relax when they see someone come to the rescue.
Regards,
Sue
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| 519.3 | Pull my tail, please! | ZEPPO::FOX | A momentary lapse of reason... PF | Tue Mar 08 1988 14:33 | 8 |
| Use the tail as a pull to move the hindquarters away from the wall.
The horse usually can get itself sternal (up on its chest) once
it has space to manuever its rear end.
I know it sounds mean to "pull a horses tail" but it isn't and it
works!
Linda
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| 519.4 | Use Soft Rope | GENRAL::BOURBEAU | | Tue Mar 08 1988 17:25 | 16 |
| According to books I;ve read,the recommended way to get the
horse away from the wall is with a loop of soft rope around a leg
closest to the wall. If you have help,get both legs. It could be
very dangerous to grab the tail,or a leg with your hands. The horse
may panic and kick out.
You should be very careful when you put the rope(s) on,and try
to do it in such a way so that once the horse is rolled over,the
ropes will fall away,or can be pulled away from a distance if need
be.
I only had to do this once for a pony,and it worked fine. In
this
case,the pony thrashed around the whole time,and ran out the door
as soon as he got to his feet.
George
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| 519.5 | Be careful, safety first! | ZEPPO::FOX | A momentary lapse of reason... PF | Tue Mar 08 1988 18:03 | 14 |
| Re. .4, using the tail is no more or less dangerous than trying
to get a rope around a hind leg which, as George mentioned, is another
way. Remember whenever a horse is cast that whether using the tail
to just move the hind end away from the wall or using a rope to
roll the horse, BE CAREFUL! Horses can (and do!) react very quickly
to being pulled and rolled and please keep in mind that YOU and
YOUR helpers safety is IMPORTANT! After just having been through
episodes of sometimes hourly having to "move" a downed horse, I
just want to remind people to be careful... A cast horse can leave
a painful injury/bruise/worse when flaying leg connects with human
flesh.
Linda
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| 519.6 | Don't try to go it alone!!! | TOMLIN::ROMBERG | Kathy Romberg DTN 276-8189 | Tue Mar 08 1988 18:33 | 23 |
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The (human) safety issue cannot be emphasized enough. Much as
you may be distressed to see your many-dollar horse lying in an
uncompromising position and kicking the wall and everything else
within a leg's reach, do not put your life at stake unless the
horse is calm. Talk to the horse from outside the stall first to
see what their reactions are before rushing in. The horse's first
concern is NOT going to be you. Seeing you he may try even harder
to get up.
If the horse is big, and doing damage to itself and showing no
signs of stopping, call the VET, who probably has had some
experience with panicky animals and can probably administer a
tranquilizer which (may) help calm the horse to a point where it
can be moved. (The vet is also another body to lend brute strength
to the task.)
Remember, horses seem to acquire super-equine strength when
they are scared. They also seem to lose whatever common sense they
may have normally. Do not depend on them to 'think' clearly when
they are cast. NEVER ASSUME that they will listen to you. BE
PREPARED TO MOVE FAST when you enter the stall.
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| 519.7 | I was thinking of Appaloosas | GENRAL::BOURBEAU | | Wed Mar 09 1988 12:27 | 9 |
| Linda,,you're probably right about using the tail not being
any more dangerous than a rope. We have three Appaloosas who have
short,thin tails,so I was thinking of them. I also keep my quarter
horse's tail short,so that would make using it more difficult. I
guess you have to make a judgement as to what's safest and most
effective in a given situation.
George
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| 519.8 | thanks for the info | SALEM::DOUGLAS | | Wed Mar 09 1988 16:09 | 7 |
| Thanks to all for your methods.
Hopefully I will never have to help a cast horse, but it's good
to know in advance.
Tina
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| 519.9 | | ASD::NAJJAR | | Wed Mar 23 1988 17:10 | 25 |
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Note 531.0 "CAST"? 1 reply
TELALL::CROSS 8 lines 22-MAR-1988 13:21
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RE: 519
I know this may sound like a stupid question, but what does it mean
when a horse is "cast" in his stall? I can surmise what it means
by reading the replies to 519 but how does a horse get there in the
first place?
"Inquiring minds want to know..."
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Note 531.1 "CAST"? 1 of 1
GENRAL::BOURBEAU 4 lines 22-MAR-1988 13:42
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There are several ways that a horse can get cast, but the most
common is when he lays down and rolls. He may then roll all the
way over,and wedge himself against the wall so that he can't roll
back over,and can't get up.
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