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Title:Equine Notes Conference
Notice:Topics List=4, Horses 4Sale/Wanted=150, Equip 4Sale/Wanted=151
Moderator:MTADMS::COBURNIO
Created:Tue Feb 11 1986
Last Modified:Thu Jun 05 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:2080
Total number of notes:22383

374.0. "Vetting Out, Weighing Benefits and Costs" by TOPDOC::NAJJAR () Wed Aug 05 1987 17:49

    If you were to have a horse vetted-out, and because of budget
    limitations, you had to decide whether you would have a blood
    test done to check for any drugs, etc. in the horse, or more
    x-rays taken which would you do?
    
    Assumptions:
    
    1) you are buying from a farm that is strictly horse sales, and you
       don't know them very well (although they seemed very nice and honest
       - you never know)
      
    2) the blood work costs $75, and x-rays are about $20 ea.
    
    3) you are already having the vet do 4 x-rays of each front
       foot
                                                                 
    As an aside, how long can bute or other drugs stay in the horse's
    system and continue its effectiveness  (longer than 2 weeks)?
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374.17 daysCSC32::M_HOEPNERWed Aug 05 1987 18:377
     Dr. Lengel from AHSA (Drugs and Medication person) tells us in
    stewards seminars that to be on the safe side regarding drug tests
    at shows, that you should refrain from using ANY illegal drugs for
    at least 7 days prior to the show.
    
    He indicated that any testable drugs would not be detectable during
    that time period.
374.2Save the blood for future testingATLAST::WAYERThu Aug 06 1987 12:0510
    I read an article in one of my horse mag. I can't remember which
    one.  The article said to have the vet draw blood during the vet
    check.  The vet should not test the blood, he should freeze it
    and store it for you.  If the horse goes lame or get sick a few
    weeks after the purchase, then you spend the money to get the blood
    tested.  If the horse was drugged you can take legal actions against
    the seller.  If the horse is fine you save the money for the blood
    test.
    
    Mary Ann
374.3good ideaTOPDOC::NAJJARThu Aug 06 1987 15:497
    Mary Ann,
    
    I really like that suggestion.  I found out that Bute only remains
    for 3 days in the horse's system, so that would be a good idea
    if I can get the vet to agree to it (I don't see why he wouldn't).
    
    
374.4reply to more importantRUTLND::CUTRONAThu Aug 13 1987 01:518
    Are you buying the horse for racing, hunting, or just pleasure?
    Your vet should be able to tell you how long bute will stay in a
    horses system.  If this horse has ever raced I think you should
    be very careful.
    
    Good luck!
    
    
374.5how does this sound?TOPDOC::NAJJARThu Aug 13 1987 16:0110
    The horse never raced (not a TB), and Bute can stay in the system
    for 3 days (I asked the vet).  I am planning to use him for dressage,
    eventing, trail riding, and driving.  I had x-rays done, and had
    the vet take a blood sample, but not test it yet.  If I notice
    any lameness or something unusual, I'll have the vet test the
    blood for drugs (it's sort of my insurance, because I told the
    owner that I was waiting for the results, and he said if anything
    showed up, which it won't, that I could return the horse and get
    my money back).  This makes me assume that he is confident that
    nothing will show up since he didn't give the horse anything.