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Title:Equine Notes Conference
Notice:Topics List=4, Horses 4Sale/Wanted=150, Equip 4Sale/Wanted=151
Moderator:MTADMS::COBURNIO
Created:Tue Feb 11 1986
Last Modified:Thu Jun 05 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:2080
Total number of notes:22383

274.0. "Horse Celebrity News" by PMRV70::MACONE () Wed May 20 1987 13:51

    News from "The Chronicle of the Horse"  May 15th issue!
    
    Maj Hector Carmona died of heart disease......also, J. Neil Ashe
    died at age 55.  Depressing news, huh?  
    
    There was also a real estate ad....advertising Cashel Farm's new
    location in Hollis NH for sale!  A mere $990,000....without a house,
    just the barn and arena.  A small cape style house is available
    for another $295,000.  I wonder why they are selling out so
    fast...anybody know these new Cashel people?
    
    
    Jeannie
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274.1CashelTLE::DAVIDSONWed May 20 1987 14:4739
  Hi,

	The 'new Cashel people' are the 'old Cashel people'.  The "small
  cape style house" may be small by Hollis standards -- but is really
  a large garrison/colonial.

	Basically -  When Dottie and Nick Demis bought the property (then
  known as Southgate), it was with the intent of building a house on the
  premises (40+ acres).  However, nobody told them that in Hollis a 'Building
  Rights' form had to be transferred within 60 days of the closing date 
  otherwise the buyers would have to wait 5 YEARS before applying for the
  'Building Rights' (note, 'Building Rights' only allow the owner to APPLY
  for a 'BUILDING PERMIT').

	Well, the 'Building Rights' were never transferred.  They are now
  appealing the Town of Hollis to recognise a late transfer so they can
  build their house.  Some of their neighbors do not want a horse facility
  so close (they could have asked to see the site plan that the previous
  owners submitted to the town's planning board and requested changes) and
  relations are alittle strained, even though Dottie and Nick have _tried_
  to make ammends.

	So, Dottie and Nick have decided to put the farm up for sale for a
  somewhat exorbident (sp?) amount, and if someone comes up with the $$ -
  they'll sell the place.  Additionally, the farm was also suppose to be
  used for training and selling of warmbloods, but the people who were 
  suppose to do the importing, training, and selling have relocated to 
  Pennsylvannia.

	Hope this clears things up.

				-Caroline


  P.S.  Even if they subdivided the property and sell portions of it -- the
  buyers would have to wait 5 years to build on it -- all due to a lack of
  'Building Rights'.  


274.2shocking news...CADSE::NAJJARThu May 21 1987 14:013
    I was suprised to hear of Maj. Carmona's death.  At least
    his contributions to dressage will be remembered, and I'm
    sure his wife Gail will continue to use his training methods.
274.3Major CarmonaTALLIS::MJOHNSONFri May 22 1987 15:0611
I was shocked to hear of Major Carmona's death also.  He was one of the
Masters in his field.  What I admired most about him was how he never 
discriminated among different breeds of horses.  He would respect any
horse and devote equal training time and consideration to each horse.
When I watched him training at his home, I marveled at how much the horses
enjoyed being ridden by him.  The dressage world will miss him and I'm
sure his horses will miss him as well.




274.4injured co-workerGEMVAX::FISHERFri Aug 23 1991 19:3921
I received this message from an "electronic newsflash".  I 
did not receive permission from the author (since I'm not 
sure who the author is).  Anyway, I thought this notesfile 
was an appropriate place to put it.  Anybody know Hope or 
what happened?


|As you may know, Hope Greenfield was in a serious accident this past week-
|end while participating in a competition with her horse.
|
|Hope has broken her back in two places, (though she is not paralyzed), 
|as well as having a broken arm. They expect to do surgery on her back on 
|Monday, 8/26.
|
|Listed below is where you can send cards, flowers etc.:
|
|                   Dartmouth Hitchcock Medical Center
|                   2 Maynard Street
|                   Hanover, New Hamphsire  03756
|
|                   Room 413
274.5Poor Hope - it happened at GMHATFOR2::GOODNOWFri Aug 23 1991 22:0415
    
    Yeah, she was in my division at GMHA.  I was in warm-up when it
    happened, so I heard that it had happened but didn't see it.
    
    It happened at a straightforward gallopy fence in a field, Suzi Gornall 
    said they got in wrong and Riley dropped a knee and twisted.  Needless
    to say, she fell pretty hard.
    
    I haven't heard anything since Sunday morning (day after), at which
    time she was in pretty rough shape.  Suzi said she had some fractured
    vertebrae and a shattered elbow.
    
    Thanks for the address, so we can send cards, etc.
    
    Amy
274.6SSVAX::DALEYTue Aug 27 1991 15:272
    Any update on Hope?
    
274.7a brief updateMCIS2::DUPUISLove is grand, Divorce is 20 grandThu Aug 29 1991 17:377
    From what I hear...
    
    Hope will be put in a body cast tomorrow, and because of the excellent
    physical shape she was in, she will be going home in about a week and
    may possibly be able to return to work a few weeks after that.
    
    /red
274.8End of an era in dressageDECWET::JDADDAMIOFri Aug 30 1991 16:4023
    It is with great regret that I note the death of my friend and longtime
    coach, Dr. Henri L. M. Van Schaik. Born in Holland in 1899, he served
    in the Dutch army in WWI as an officer in a mounted unit. He later rode
    for Holland competitively in jumping and was a member of their Silver
    medal winning showjumping team at the 1936 Olympics. He also learned
    dressage and while in Europe trained several horses to Haute Ecole
    levels. 
    
    He emigrated to the US in 1953 and settled in Cavendish VT. For many
    years, he operated a small riding academy from his own stable. He also
    gave clinics throughout the US. He travelled to Europe annually to keep
    in touch with the dressage community there. As an I rated judge, he
    also travelled widely to judge competitions.
    
    
    He was a contemporary and acquaintance of Alois Podhajsky(the late
    director of the Spanish Riding School and real life hero portrayed in 
    Disney's 
    "The Miracle of the White Stallions") and Waldemar Seunig (A late
    German riding master of some renown). With Van Schaik's death and the 
    deaths in recent years of great European masters such as Olivera
    and American based/European trained men like Andrew De Szinay(sp?), Major
    Szilagi and Hector Carmona Sr, I feel that we are at the end of an era.
274.9he will be missedISE006::JOHNSONFri Aug 30 1991 16:548

	That is very sad news.  He will be greatly missed by the dressage 
	world.  

	Melinda


274.10Jappeloup Dead at 16DECWET::JDADDAMIOAdmire spirit in horses & women!Sat Dec 07 1991 23:4129
    This is about a celebrity horse rather than horse-person. So, moderator
    please feel free to move it if there is a more appropriate spot. I
    couldn't find one that seemed good to me in note 4.
    
    JND
    
Just over a month after the conclusion of his retirement tour, the great 
French show jumper Jappeloup died following heart failure at the home of rider 
Pierre Durand on Nov 5. Jappleoup was 16.

During his carrer the diminutive French-bred part Trotter did just about 
everything a show jumper can do. He competed in 5 FEI Volvo World Cup Finals, 
placing second in 1988 and 1990 and third in 1985. He competed in four 
European Championships, winning in 1987 and leading the French team to the 
silver medal. He competed in two World Championships, placing fourth in 1986 
and winning the team gold in 1990. 

But the careful black jumper will always be best remembered for the ease with 
which he won the 1988 Olympic gold medal in Seoul. He was the only horse to 
jump two clear rounds on the final day.

In honor of his partner, Durand arranged an international retirement tour to 
selected shows this year, a la basketball greats Julius Erving and Kareem 
Abdul-Jabbar. His last stop in North America was the Spruce Meadows(Canada) 
Masters in September, where he finsihed a respectable sixth in the Du Maurier 
Grand Prix. Jappeloup's tour culminated at the Durand-managed Paris Masters in 
late September, where he was officially retired.

From "The Chronicle of the Horse" Nov 29 1991
274.11What a way to go!DECWET::JDADDAMIOSeattle Rain Festival: 1/1-12/31Wed Jun 23 1993 18:1318
    Extracted from the June 4 Chronicle of the Horse:
    
    "Fernanno 'Chin' Dufort galloped his last set on Feb 10. Dufort
    finished working a filly at Foxtrack Farm in Southern Pines, N.C.,
    pulled up, gently rolled off and died of heart failure. He was 75. Two
    days laster the filliy finished second in the maiden hurdle at the
    Moore County Point-to-Point."
    
    That's the way I wanna go out. 'Course, I'd like to be more like 95 at
    the time!
    
    The article reminded me of something van Schaik told me when he came back 
    from Europe one summer. He said, "Handler[Podhajsky's successor as Director
    of the Spanish Riding School] invited me to a performance. We were
    to have dinner together afterwards. But, during the performance, he fell 
    dead from his horse." I thought it a drastic way to get out of a dinner
    engagement... ;-) especially since Handler must have been less than 65
    because the Austrian government has mandatory retirement at 65.
274.12RembrandtCMOTEC::HARWOODJJudy Harwood - REO - 830 2879Mon Jul 26 1993 11:3842
	Folks,

	I have in front of me the latest edition (July '93)of Dressage -
	a UK magazine devoted to dressage topics and news.
	It contains the following - which is reproduced without
	permission.

			-----------
	"Nichole Uphoff's double Olympic gold medal horse Rembrandt 
	is out of training for at least the rest of the season 
	following an accident at the National German championships 
	in Verden.

	After a chaotic lap of honour for the champions, the horses
	were jammed up at the exit.  In this mess, Bric, the mare
	belonging to show jumper Barbara Reitter kicked Rembrandt.
	He stood on three legs immediately.

	He had fractured a piece of bone, luckily not in a joint 
	and an operation in the clinic of FEI vet Dr Peter Cronau
	in Wattenscheid fixed the bone with two screws.  Dr Cronau
	said the operation went well and he is optimistic.

	Rembrandt recovered quickly from an hour of anasthesia and
	if everything continues as well as it looks at the moment
	he will need about three months rest before starting training.

	Nichole Uphoff said she will start him, at the earliest in
	the Spring of 1994 when he will be 17.  He will only appear
	in public again if he is "a thousand per cent alright" said
	Jurgen Uphoff, Nicole's father.

	The horse is not insured.  Jurgen Uphoff reserved the right 
	to take steps for compensation."
			-----------
    
	I can't find the original note breaking the news of Rembrandt's 
	injury.  Hopefully if the moderators feel that this is mis-placed, 
	they will move it to a more appropriate note.

	Judy
    
274.13just curiousCSCMA::SMITHMon Jul 26 1993 16:176
    I know this is way off the subject but I'm curious.  If your at an
    event and if your horse kicks another horse or person and the horse,
    rider or person gets hurt,  does any normal insurance cover you for
    this (homeowners or anything)? Does the new MASS law protect you?
    
    Sharon
274.14Thanks for the good news!DECWET::JDADDAMIOSeattle Rain Festival: 1/1-12/31Mon Jul 26 1993 17:4914
    Thanks, Judy! That's good news indeed(and this is at least as
    appropriate a spot to put the news as wherever the other notes were...
    Which I think was Note 10 Dressage. Maybe?)
    
    Anyway, In the 2 reports I had read, they said that Rembrandt didn't
    have a very good chance of survival. One actually said he only had a
    50-50 chance of making it through the operation. 
    
    Apparently, those reports were 1) WRONG and 2) speculations made before
    the operation.
    
    So, thanks for the good news. We could all use some of that these days!
    
    John
274.15define NEGLIGENCE KAHALA::HOLMESTue Jul 27 1993 20:2741
>>	The horse is not insured.  Jurgen Uphoff reserved the right 
>>	to take steps for compensation."
>>			-----------

    In the U.S. the magic word is NEGLIGENCE.

    Believe it or not I was on a jury last week.  A four
    day trial about a car accident.

    When we started deliberations the judge gave us a
    five question work sheet.

    Question One.  Was the person being sued (the defendant)
    negligent in the operation of his vehicle ?

    The answer was "no" and we were done.

    If we had decided "yes" then we would have voted on how much
    money to award the plaintiff and also that if the plaintiff
    was also negligent, by what percent, and that percent of money
    would be deducted from the award.

    Let's just say that jury duty was an eye-opening experience.
    

    I won't comment on the Teasing-the-stallion-before-a-trail-ride case,
    that would be to easy.


    So at a horse show, or a major horse show how do you convince a jury
    that your horse was kicked because of negligence on someones part ?

    The reason the U.S. courts are so messed-up is that everyone sues
    anyone (who has the money or is insured) because they may settle
    out of court because it's cheaper than a trail.

    Keep in mind the car accident on trial last week happened on
    Nov 23, 1987 !

    Anyone know how this would work in Europe ?
    
274.16RembrandtDECWET::JDADDAMIOSeattle Rain Festival: 1/1-12/31Wed Jul 28 1993 23:3119
Cross posted from rec.equestrian

Article 15869 of rec.equestrian:
Organization: mbp IT GmbH at ESOC, Darmstadt, Germany
Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1993 15:28:48 CET
From: Dr. Lutz Massonne <LMASSONN@ESOC.BITNET>
Subject: Rembrandt 

The latest I have read here in the local German horse press was that
Rembrandt is recovering fine after his knee fracture.
He is still at the hospital and being worked in walk and trot,
at the hand.

Regards, Lutz

 Dr. Lutz Massonne           - mbp Informationstechnologie GmbH
 Tel. +49 6151 902027        - at ESOC; Robert-Bosch-Str. 5
 Fax  +49 6151 902271        - D-64293 Darmstadt; Germany
 e-mail LMASSONN@ESOC.BITNET / X400: C=DE;A=DBP;P=ESA;S=MASSONNE;G=LUTZ
274.17Cass Ole - The Black StallionDECWET::JDADDAMIOSeattle Rain Festival: 1/1-12/31Wed Jul 28 1993 23:3115
Cross-posted from rec.equestrian:

Article 15672 of rec.equestrian:
From: lbishop@ringer.cs.utsa.edu (Linda Bishop)
Subject: Cass Ole - The Black Stallion
Organization: University of Texas at San Antonio
Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1993 19:27:48 GMT

Several of you,, in the past, have asked about Cass Ole, the
Arabian stallion who was in the Black Stallion movie.  I thought
you would like to know that Cass colicked about two or three 
weeks ago.  Seeing as he was 25 years old, Dr. Cueo decided against
surgery and Cass was put down. 

Linda 
274.18Genuine Risk & Julie KroneDECWET::JDADDAMIOSeattle Rain Festival: 1/1-12/31Wed Jul 28 1993 23:3224
Cross-posted from rec.equestrian:

Article 15860 of rec.equestrian:
From: mchugh@watson.ibm.com (Mary McHugh)
Subject: Genuine Risk & Julie Krone
Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1993 16:49:21 GMT

I should have posted this earlier, but for anyone that is interested, last 
Sunday's  New York Times had a very nice article on Genuine Risk's as of yet
unnamed baby (he's 2 months old now & has recovered nicely from surgery).  It's
in the sports section and features a picture of him grazing with Jenny.  What
a looker!  The Firestone's are trying to get Jenny in foal again despite all
the problems she's had.

This Sunday's NY Times Magazine section had a lovely article on Julie Krone 
along with some nice pictures, esp. of her and her first pony "Filly" which 
she tracked down & brought back to NJ.  It's a very interesting article 
which focuses a lot on how tough she is and how tough it is for women to 
break into the business.

They're too long to post but if there is interest & I have the time, I might 
paraphrase them.

Mary McHugh
274.19Rembrandt back to workCMOTEC::HARWOODJJudy Harwood - REO - 830 2879Fri Mar 11 1994 11:5918
		Rembrandt back to work
	
	Full training has started again for Rembrandt, double
	Olympic gold medal dressage ride of Nicole Uphoff-Becker,
	following several months rest after he was kicked during 
	the lap of honour at the German championships.

	Rembrandt had to undergo surgery after a bone near the knee
	was split and his chances of a comeback seemed gloomy.

	Nicole is optimistic that she will defend her World 
	Championship title in The Hague.  She hopes to start him
	in the first German qualifier during the CDI Wiesbaden over 
	Witsun.

		
    (From Horse & Hound 10/3/94 - without permission)
274.20Rembrandt at WiesbadenFSAEUR::LOTHROPWed May 25 1994 09:3812
    I got the chance to go to the CDI Wiesbaden this past weekend and
    indeed, Rembrandt looked wonderful.  He won both the Grand Prix and the
    Special.  His Grand Prix score was 1784 points, his second highest
    score ever!  His highest score came at the 1992 Olympics in Barcelona,
    but I don't know what it was exactly.
    
    I'm not sure what his competition schedule looks like for the rest of
    the summer, but would assume he'd be going to the WEG.  I'm hoping
    he'll compete at the CHIO Aachen, which I have tickets for in the
    middle of June - I'd love to see him again!
    
    Janet
274.21PAT SMYTHE DIES AGED 67CHEFS::HARWOODJTue Mar 12 1996 15:4523
            There doesn't seem to be an obituary note - so I'll
            enter this note about Pat Smythe here.
            Moderators please move if there is a note that I have
            missed.
    
            For Horse & Hound (without permission)
    
            PAT SMYTHE DIES AGED 67
    
            Pat Koechlin-Smythe, heroine of British show jumping
            died in hospital on Tuesday last week after a long
            illness.
    
            David Broome, chairman of the British Show Jumping
            Association said: "Pat was a great ambassador for the
            sport, always imamaculately turned out and one of the
            greatest horsewomen I have known in my time.
            The image she portrayed was always something to look
            up to.  She is a great loss to us all.