Conference noted::equitation

    Hi, Merrie - My beast is 1/2 arab, and I've always admired the breed,
    they just aren't bred/designed for the type of competing I do. 
    Granted there are the exceptions, and maybe someday, the world of
    dressage will favor them, but not for the moment.  I like the Russian
    strains the best, but there are always outstanding individuals in
    the other strains, and crossbreds.  I like them because they are
    usually taller and bigger boned - more to them than the Egyptians.
    
    Is anyone planning to go to Scottsdale this month?  If so, there
    is a horse I'd like you to keep an eye out for in the Western Pleasure
    classes.  I'm interested in hearing how he moves.
    
    -Julie

    Maybe folks are just embarassed to be the first so I'll get the
    mental log jam broken.  My wife Kathie and I have 14 horses (with
    one more any time now and several this summer) all of which are
    Arabs except one.  Their bloodlines are a mixture of domestic/polish/
    crabbet but we tend toward the crabbet/polish side for their size
    and athletic ability.  While type and beauty are important to us,
    our primary breeding objectives are tractable horses with athletic
    ability.  We generally show in the New England AHSA Class A breed
    circuit with an occasional excursion to Devon Pa, the Buckeye, or
    Syracuse.  I prefer English Pleasure, Kathie prefers Western Pleasure
    horses.  We do business as Dunwishin Arabians at Sterling, Ma. 
    We are both active in clubs thoughout New England especially Mass
    where I am the current president and Kathie is the Secretary.
    
    OK now that I've broken the ice... lets hear from the rest of you
    Arab lovers out there.  I know you're there, I even know who some
    of you are, so tickle that keyboard.
    
    Bob
    

    Julie,
    
    What is the horse's name?  We're not going but we know several people
    who are.  We'll have them keep an ear open for the name.  The Mass
    club is having a Speghetti dinner and Film nite on the 21st of Feb
    (details in the Peddler) and we expect to hear the results of
    Scottsdale there.
    
    Bob
    
    

    I'll put my two cents in. I have a full Arab geilding named Fantasia's
    Legacy. He's 15 hands & will be 5 years old in two weeks. The wife
    & I showed him in halter when he was a yearly & colt. He's been in
    training the last couple of years as Western Pleasure. Will be showing
    a few times this year, but will be busy in mid-July with Class A
    Lead-In & Regional National for our Division.
    The wife & I do love Legacy & hope to have another Arab later on.
    I know there are a lot of Arab owners out there, in Colo., we're
    the second largest Arab registry in the country, I know there's
    plenty of you back East that have Arabs, so speakup..
    
                                                           Steve
    
    
    
    
    
    

    You bet I'm an "Arab" person.
    
    I currently own 4--
    
    	1 National Show Horse who is an Azraff/Raseyn grandson (I owned
          his sire until a month or so ago.
    
    	  I show him in Park (he's a GOOD one--natural and balanced)
          and in English Pleasure and sometimes costume.  I also use
          him for trail riding--really sensible and brave.  He also
          doubles as my hunt horse.
    
        1 Anglo Arabian (16 3" mare) of Sureyn breeding/stakes winning
          thoroughbred--bred by John Aldred, Rollingwood Farm, Haymarket,
          Virginia (he has more like her).
    
          I show her in hunter/jumper shows and some eventing.  She's
          a real packer.  (Oh yes, she is also qualified for Region
          11 in halter as well as Region 11 champion Hunter and champion
          jumper).
    
        1 1/2 Arab pinto (21 years old) of COMAR breeding (a *Mirage/*Raseyn  
          granddaughter).  She is a National Top Ten Performance Horse
          which I raised from a baby.  She has done EVERYTHING! 
    
        1 purebred filly (Amurath Borodino x Rapport daughter who was
          out of a Geym daughter who was out of a Image daughter)--so
          she is a Crabbet / Eqyptian cross.  She is tall, correct,
          TYPEY, and a wonderful mover.   
    
    I really don't prefer any particular type of Arab (except for I
    find that the ones I immediately am drawn to have substantial Egyptian
    breeding).  Mostly I want horses which are attractive and physically
    as well as mentally athletic.
    
    Before I joined DEC I was very active in International AHA meetings.
    I am on the National and Regional Classes Committee as well as the
    Hunter/Jumper committee and the Dressage Committee.
    
    Its nice to know there are other ARAB folks out there.
    
    Mary Jo Hoepner (new DEC person -- Colorado Springs)
                                         

    Welcome Mary Jo to this file, as I too am an "Arab" person. The
    wife & I only have one horse, Fantasia's Legacy, he's a just like
    having a kid. They have their own personalities, etc.. Trying to
    remember the right pedigree cross,(like remembering wedding anniver.)
    just offhand know he's a double Ferzon grandson. Like to meet you
    someday in the cafeteria at CXO1. He's boarded out in Black Forest.
    Do mostly pleasure riding, but have him in training as western
    pleasure. My wife is President of the Southern Division of the Main
    club based in Denver. We are in the process of organizing for the
    Lead-In & Regional Championships coming Mid-July at the State Fair
    ground in Pueblo. So we won't be showing much this year. Sounds
    like you have some nice horses, it does take some work to make them
    show quality.
    Hope to talk to later, my ext.#3473
    
                                                               Steve
    
    
    
    

    Maryjo, sounds like you have some terrific horses!  I've shown against
    Dr. Aldred at the Maryland State Fair and I think he judged the
    Montgomery County "A" show two seasons ago.  
    
    Welcome to DEC.  And to this notes file.
    
    Who was the sire of your National Show Horse?  My Crabbet lines
    are Ferzon/Azraff as well as Indian Magic/Dargee.  I wonder whether
    I've seen the stallion?  How did you meet Dr. Aldred?  Did you know
    he also breeds Welsh/Arab hunter ponies?
     

    I know John Aldred from International Arabian Horse Association
    meetings--we are both on the hunter/jumper committee.  He raises
    some really athletic individuals, several of which are pure Crabbet.
    His stallion, RF Kestrel is really nice and is closely related to
    the late, great Lewisfield Bold Hawk.
    
    I always look forward to visiting Dr. Aldred--he has a lovely farm and
    a nice group of horses.
    
    My geldings sire was Heilanaz (Azraff x Jameel Raheilen--to Raseyn).
    He never left Iowa--but his babies have done well across the country.
    Heilinaz passed on about a month ago unfortunately (24 years old).
    There are still lots of Azraff sons and daughters in Iowa--some really
    nice ones.  Right now is a good time to try to buy horses in Iowa--with
    the wretched financial situation of most of the farmers.
      
    I hope I get to meet you folks whenever I get out that way.  (I
    sure would like to see something develop out here which would be
    similar to the amateur curcuit you folks have.)
    
    Thanks for the greeting.
    
    Mary Jo 
    
    

    Nice to meet you, Mary Jo!
    
    If you're really interested in starting an amateur group, I'd be
    glad to send you my copy of the Eastern Amateur Arabian Horse Show
    Circuit bylaws, so you can see how we set up our circuit.  It's
    really a worthwhile group.  The EAAHSC covers the area from mid
    Pennsylvania, Delaware, Maryland and Virginia.  The shows are usually
    well-attended -- in all those states. The awards at the end of the
    year mean something; trainers recognize the level of competition,
    in this case, means that very nice horses are competing.  A
    championship is hard-earned, often against large classes.
    
    You can send DECmail to Aiken @DCO or mail to NEWVAX::AIKEN, if
    you're interested.

    I own a part bred, Arab x Clydesdale.  I've already described him
    in 1.45 so I won't fill up the space here.  Salemah has been away
    for extra schooling last week and my daughter had some lessons on
    him, the instructress says that they make a good team and would
    do well at dressage, so we will aim for some club events next year.
    He is a big powerfull horse and I will be doing some long distance
    riding and aim to do the Arab Horse Society marathon on him in 2
    years time when we are both fitter (he'll be ready before me). 
    We haven't done any showing yet but Salemah will be entered for
    the ridden part bred at the AHS show in Ascot in July 1988.  All
    this is for a years time, he is still green and I am no where near
    as good a rider as I could be, so it's back to the training.
    
    Mike
    

  I am your equal.
  I am a wild creature that can never be like you.
  I have fire, life, and a warrior spirit that is my heritage.
  I cannot be humbled in punishment or
     defeated even in death
       for my spirit lives on...


                     Stormy Kiss

          June 4, 1975  --  December 7, 1987

The Lord blessed me with Stormy for almost 8 years.  I was chosen to be his
person at a difficult time in my life--his fire, intelligence, ARROGANCE,
fighting spirit, and love boosted me through bad times and the good.

He got me through a divorce.  He packed me out of the back woods when I was
badly injured.  He helped me recover from major surgery.  He helped me make the
transition from Iowa to Colorado during bouts of home-sickness.

Because of Stormy being Stormy, I met many people who are now friends.  (Being
a John McEnroe type--talented and tempermental--he always attracted lots of
attention).  We also picked up many Class A championships along the way in
Park, Halter, and English Pleasure (National Show Horse and Half-Arabian 
classes). 

Stormy showed signs of being ill Sunday evening.  We arrived at the Littleton
Large Animal Clinic Monday morning for colic surgery.  We were never able to
get him stablized enough for surgery.  His condition finally declined so badly,
it was best to let him go.  He left us the only way he knew--fighting every
inch of the way. 

It turns out he had been living with a diseased liver, lungs, and heart.  No
type of surgery could have helped.  The condition probably has been there for
months.  This was a horse that only Saturday drug me around the trails at the
Academy for three hours--never showing signs of stress. 
    
    Mary Jo

    Mary Jo, I am very sorry to hear about Stormy. Very few words can
    be said that can really describe the loss of a 4-legged friend or
    that can help ease the pain. 
    

    I'm a mixed bag of words about how I feel that you have lost such
    a good friend & family member. It's never easy.
    
                                                    Steve
    

    
    
    there are no words to describe... just know that our thoughts
    are with you, and remember all that was good and positive and
    wonderful.
    
    they are only ours - and we theirs - for a time
    
    h

    IT'S A FILLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    
    Yesterday morning at about 5:00 a.m. my 10-year-old mare, Emazing
    Grace, foaled her third foal and third filly.  The new baby is bay
    but will be gray soon.  She didn't even have the decency to wait
    until she was dry for the gray hairs to start popping out over her
    eyes!  Fortunately, I think Arabian mares are supposed to be gray.
    This baby is good sized and very strong - right up on her pasterns
    and bouncing around the stall.  Good thing, too -- it's very cold!
    
    Since I have been positive that this baby would be a colt, I've
    named the filly Ad Lib (Libby to her friends).  She will be
    receiving visitors on the weekends - just call or send mail and
    I'll get directions to you.
    
    I hope everyone else waiting for babies will be as happy with what
    they get as I am!
    
    Gwen
    dtn 296-4815
    

    Congratulations on a filly.  You seem to have a good filly producing
    record.
    
    Whats the breeding of the dam and sire?

    My stallion, Back Bey, is a Bay-El-Bey son and out of a *Fortel
    daughter.
    
    My mare, the lovely Gracie, is by a stallion in Indiana named
    Emauson.  Emauson is by *Emaus (*Naborr x *Egreta) and out of
    Bint Mirzaz (*Mirzaz [by *Naborr] x Mahi).  And Gracie is out
    of a Bay Abi daughter who was out of an Ibn Ferseyn daughter.
    
    So you see, the girls have a *very* tight pedigree.  And you
    can also see where the gray comes from.  The two older fillies
    would have liked to be black, but Emauson kept saying no, no, no
    -- not in this family!
    
    Gwen
    

    Does anyone know the Arabian judge David McKay from Washington State?
     He's going to judge a show June 4-5 in Richmond, VA.  I'm interested
    in general feelings about his ability; whether he seems to prefer
    a particular kind of Arabian (Egyptian, Polish, etc.) or whether
    he really seems to pick the best horse, regardless of kind; how
    quickly he judges; any other information.
    
    thanks,
    Merrie (DTN 378-6706) or 301-731-6706
    

    how about using this note for a list of judges and how they judge
    and what they look for in the show ring??
    
    		wendy.
    

    Merrie, I don't think we've ever shown in front of him, but
    for some reason I think he's an Egyptian fancier.  ????????
    
    Gwen
    

    
    
    	does anyone know of these judges and what they like?
    
    ken robbins ohio
    william parker jr. ohio
    melonie riegal ohio
    jack dreschler quebec canada
    george enders ohio
    mary ann feilitz ohio
    
    i have a show in 2 weeks and wanted some info.
    
    		thanks
    			wendy o'
    
    

    I am an Arab lover too!
    
    I own 3 arabs and I am from the Southern NH area.
    
    My gelding is 10 yrs, bay and his name is Ramar Reyhan (Almawardy
    x Ramar Rhea).  He is well trained and in his younger years shown
    in Class A shows.  Possible lease available.
    
    My mare is 5, gray and her name is RoylBlu Mavouka (NDL Paris X
    RoylBlu Amalda)(Cedardell Amal daughter).  She is just green broke
    and currently in foal for April 89.  She is also available to lease
    to someone interested in the foal and in continuing her training.
    She is extremely willing to work and has a very loving personality.
    
    My filly is a yearling, gray and her name is Mahabeyani (Canberri
    Bey x Ramar Maharani) Huckleberry Bey grandaughter that has a super
    personality, very easily managed because she was orphaned at 5 wks.
    
    What a way to start into Arabs.  My first foal being an orphan and
    losing her mother horribly to colic in a snow storm with no power.
    But I still love having them and my favorite bloodlines must have
    some Egyptian in them.
    
    Since I am a Sheltie breeder also I am a head freak and an Eqyptian
    head with those big big melting eyes are a must.  Then they better
    be able to move their way out of a paper bag or forget it.
    
    I am really novice in horses but I do have an eye for a good animal.
    I really could use a partner though that has an excellent riding
    ability as I do not that could possibly share my horses with me
    making things less expensive for us both.  I have an interest in
    showing but no money.  My horses are stabled on my own property
    and I have my own sand area to ride in.
    
    If there is another arab lover out there that can't afford your
    own and you would like to share in mine please please call me. 
    I have little time for them with a 10 mo old son and with the economy
    the way it is little hope of selling any of them.  Any help would
    be appreciated.  Send mail to NANOOK::JENKINS or DTN 263-6067.
    
    
    Nancy
    

    I'd like to share a wonderful experience I had last night.  After
    a year of noting and mailing each other back and forth, I had an
    opportunity to meet and spend the evening with Gwen Cook.
    
    I truly can't say enough about Gwen!  Her horses (Arabians) are
    absolutely beautiful, they are picture perfect Arabians, with
    impeccable breeding.  
    
    Where do I start...  Back Bey, is the sire of 3 beautiful fillies,
    each of these fillies has there own unique personality. They are
    loving, attention demanding girls.  Each one of them set-up and
    stood as picture perfect as they could...  Very well mannered!
    
    Their mother Emazing Grace, is the most classic mare I've seen in
    ages!!  Classy, well mannered and a joy to be around.
    
    Gwen, has done very well with her combination of Back Bey and Emazing
    Grace, the off-spring are living proof what quality individuals
    will put on the ground!
    
    I would encourage anyone interested in seeing some really quality
    Arabian horses to contact Gwen, I'm sure she wouldn't mind showing
    off her kids.                   
    
    Thanks for having me over Gwen...  I wonder if I could convince
    the husband that we need another horse, hmmmmmm.
    
    Lorna 
    

    Thank you Lorna for the lovely note!  Lately I've been feeling that
    having a successful Arabian breeding program is sort of like wetting
    your pants in a navy blue suit -- it makes you feel all warm but
    nobody notices!  It's sure nice to have somebody notice!
    
    I'd like to mention here that if anyone would recognize a classic
    Arabian horse it's Lorna.  She brought me a couple of pictures of
    her stallion, Kelly.  What a beautiful horse!  Now I know why our
    blacksmith speaks to highly of him.
    
    I'm so glad Lorna and I finally got to meet -- I hope we'll be able
    to get together often.
    
    And for all you other noters - the kids and I are always happy to
    have company!
    
    
    Gwen
   

    There are so many notes on problems and such, so I felt it was time
    to commend someone for a job VERY well done...
    
    You'll probably have to string barb wire around your barn to keep
    me away!!!
    
    We'll definately have to get together again...  Maybe you come to
    Oxford and see our place.
    
    Well anyway, thanks again for a wonderful evening!
    
    Lorna
    

    I need to find some info/pictures of an Arabian stallion for a friend.
    His name is Korrabi and he's supposed to be some sort of Canadian
    champion.
    
    Any suggestions on where to strat looking?
    
    -maureen
    

    If the horse has papers, you can track down information
    from who evers he's registered with. Mine are registered
    with the British Horse Society in the UK, and the papers
    have a telephone number on them.
    
    Good luck.
    
    

    RE: .0
    
    If your friend is looking for a stallion to breed to I've got one
    for her his name is THREE-B RASHEIK++ 
    
     He is a Canadian National Top Ten Stallion
    Legion of Merit Champion
    National Show Horse Sire
    Breeder's Sweepstakes Sire
    
    His offspring are pulling out all the stops
    
    1988-  Region 18 Champion Half Arabian Filly
    
    1987- Region 18 Champion Half Arabian Filly
          Region 18 Reserve Champion Half Arabian Filly
    
    1986- Region 16 Champion Half Arabian Filly & Region 18 Reserve
          Champion Half Arabian Filly
          Region 16 Champion Half Arabian Colt
          Region 18 Reserve Champion Half Arabian Colt
    
    1985- Region 18 Champion Half Arabian Filly
          Region 18 Champion Half Arabian Colt
          Region 18 Reserve Champion Half Arabian Colt
    
    1984- Region 18 Reserve Champion Purebred Filly
    
    So if she is looking for a breeding stallion his kids speak pretty
    well for him. If she or you are interested just drop me a note in
    this conference
    
    
     tanks!!
      H

    I can't promise anything but the Canadian Arab Registry is located
    up here.  A collegue of mine at DEC, helped to computerize them,
    let me know if you want me to pursue this line further. 

    My name is Maureen and just discovered this WONDERFUL file.  I, at
    present, do not own any horses... much to my dismay, but have vowed
    that before I become extinct own an ARAB of my own.  
    
    I frequent the Region 16 shows, both in Springfield and Syracuse and
    have been subscribing to the AHW since time begane..for me I was first
    introduced to an ARABIAN in 1973. 
    
    I have never seen a more beautiful sight than the liberty classes at the 
    end of a Saturday show (except watching them free).  I was surprised,
    however, last time when there were other than Stallions entered.  I
    know that it is not a closed class, but others, though deffinately not
    lacking in beauty and grace, seem to be missing that je ne ce quai
    (please forgive the slaughter of that) that seems to be possesed by
    only Stallions.  
    
    Should GOD grant me the priviledge of owning an ARABIAN, preferably a
    mare so that I may breed her, if only once, so that I may name the
    offspring (filly) Mieke's Naibara. I have thought of this dream often. 
    
    Of the "types" of ARABIANS, I find Egyptian the most wonderous to
    behold.  However, when, on the eigth day GOD created the "STALLION" he
    created Khemosabi. 
    
    Thank you for listening, I know I rambled, but I must explain...1.
    I have no friends that share the "obsession" with me, and 2. I am
    working 3rd shift...it's 4:30 in the morning and haven't a sole to talk
    to all night.
    
    For the pleasure and the pain...
    
    Maureen

    Thanks to everyone for the help offers.  I've got to table this
    for another week or so.  Work does tend to get in the way, doesn't
    it?
    
    -maureen
    

    Well, I'm about to join the ranks of the Arab horse owners!  I've
    always admired the breed, but being a dressage rider tended to look for
    horses that were more suited to dressage competition.  However, I've
    decided that at 5'2" and 110 pounds I can definitely do without a 17
    hand 1400 pound monster.  And, since to a large degree the type that is
    considered correct for competition is not necessarily the only type who 
    can learn middle and upper level dressage (or even the best type...extra 
    size creates many problems), I've been looking for a horse that is more 
    my size.  I was aiming at 15.2 to 16 hand thoroughbreds, when I ran into 
    an arab gelding at a price I couldn't resist.  Pending vet exam later 
    this month, I'm going to get my first purebred arab.  Some of you may 
    know him.  His name is RBA Algiers (from Royl Blu Arabians).  In '87 he 
    won a bunch of championships and grand championships (Region 16, AHANE, 
    NHAHA, futurity).
    
    So not only am I going against every principle of the correct type for
    dressage, I'm also going against my own beliefs about horses bred for 
    halter rather than performance, horses lunged at too young an age on 
    too small a circle, at to high a speed.  But at least I'm finally 
    realizing my childhood dream (after reading probably every book Walter 
    Farley book ever wrote...remember The Black???)!!!!
    
    As an aside, I wonder how many dressage riders in this country realize
    that the reason the warmbloods have been bred so large is because they
    are meant to carry very large riders (I seem to remember a comment
    Kathy Connelly made to me about the German's liking their Schnapps as
    the cause!) and not because they are necessarily the best suited. 
    
    Oh, well.  Onward and downward! (at least in size)
    
    Mary

    I need some advice on the following problem:
    
    I have a chance to get a purebred (registered) Arabian Gelding from a
    stable where they have taken ownership of him for non-payment of board. 
    I have to pay the board up, which is considerable.  The person that
    owns him has gotten involved with drugs, etc, and the horse hasn't 
    been paid on
    or visited by them in six months.  One of the stable hands knows this
    person and the situation.  I have no idea who this person is, but the
    stable also told me that they didn't think I would be able to collect
    the papers from them.
    
    How would this affect me in showing in registered Arab shows?   Can I
    get the papers reissued through the Arab Society?
    
    Thank you,
    
    Tina

    Is this arab a chestnut from Grafton Ma?

    
    	You will need the registered owner's name, the horse's reg
    	name, and the assoc he was registered with. Then, write the
    	assoc with that info, explain that you now own the horse and
    	that you want it in your name. Proof of ownership would make
    	things easier. Good luck.
    

    The horse is in NH., I've decided not to pursue the horse for several
    reasons.
    
    Tina

    Even though you have chosen not to buy the horse, I'll leave the
    information here for future referance.  It is just as well that you did
    not pay any money for this horse because there is only one way to show
    the horse at All Arab shows and that is with a copy of the papers.  The
    only way to get the papers from the registry is with the recorded
    owners signature.  The registry is not flexible in any way around this
    point regardless of what paperwork you can produce showing that the
    horse is yours.  I've tried this before until I was blue in the face
    but they just won't budge.  By the way, you can also have problems with
    registering foals unless you are the recorded owner AT THE TIME OF
    BREEDING!  We have been two years trying to straighten out a mess
    because someone signed a transfer form with a felt tip pen.  Make sure
    that you can get the signature first before you pay out any money.
    
    Regards,
    
    Bob
    

    
    Too bad I didn't know you could use them.  As a part of my Christmas
    cleaning frenzy I threw out a bunch.  But I'll check to see if I have 
    it somewhere.
    

I believe there there was a brief write-up about this stallion in the article 
in the Chronicle of the Horse. I think the stallion placed 7th out of 11
with a score of 91 (and had respectable comments in performance portions of
the test.)

Would you like that issue? I could mail a copy of the article to you...

Linda

    Other Arabian owners might be interested to see if their horses are
    related to these horses...    

    "Gil is rated best stallion in Holland" by Jackie Biggelar

    Leiden, Holland -

    The stallion liscensing show is held in Holland once a year and is
    one of the most important shows we have. The horses are judged very
    strictly and they can only liscense a horse if he is very good
    quality. 

    This year's stallion liscensing show was conducted at the Groenoord
    Hallen here in Leiden. There were 30 stallions entered, which is a
    pretty good number for the Dutch Registry, but the judges ended up
    liscensing only seven new stallions.

    The stallions consisted of: two 2-year olds, one 4-year old, three
    6-year olds, and one 8-year old. Particularly interesting was the 
    liscensing by the Dutch Warmblood Registry (dressage, jumping horses)
    as the liscensed the last purebred Arabian four years ago.

    This year they liscensed Gil (Probat x Gildia), who was bred in 
    Poland, but came to Holland from the United States. Criteria for
    the Warmblood liscensing is that the horse have an extraordinary
    conformation and the very well balanced, as well as be a good mover.

    Gil was also rated the best stallion; he was 25 points ahead of the 
    second best horse: Vulcan (Menes x Nasturcia). Gil also won his age
    class, and by doing that, beat world champion Calero. It was a matter
    of fact that the best stallions were the one imported from Poland,
    Russia and the U.S.

    Points were given only to the newly liscensed stallions, by the Swedish
    point system. All of the points were added together to give a total
    score for each horse. Following are the newly liscened stallions and 
    and their points. 

    2 year olds:                                                   Score:
    Mercure "BB" (Khouros x Hamu's Salima) - Bay, Russian/Crabbet   214
    Nabuco (Mag x Nepriadwa) - Grey, Straight Russian (Full brother 216
                                                       to Naturel)

    4 year olds:
    Naik (Komplekt x Pritcha) - Grey, Straight Russian              217

    6 year olds:
    Vulcan (Menes x Nasturcia) - Grey, Straight Russian             230
    Conquest (Salon x Maarlee) - Grey, Russian/Egyptian             223
    Daoud (Mirok x Nasra) - Chestnut, Russian/Crabbet               203

    8 year olds:
    Gil (Probat x Gildia) - Bay, Pure Polish                        255

    The placing of all stallions, after the newly liscensed stallions were
    added, was the following:

    3-year olds:
        1. Nabuco
        2. Mercure "BB"
    4-year olds:
        1. RKS Haziz (Mosry x PH Natasha)
        2. Naik
        3. Hamal (Amal x Ghazel)
    5-year olds:
        1. Gomel (Peleng x Miest)
        2. Gonchar (Menes x Nametka)
        3. Mel Nebli (Pintor x Mel Idola)
    6-year olds:
        1. Vatican (Kumir x Nevesta)
        2. Abdul (Abdullah x Mirre)
        3. Vulcan
    7-year olds:
        1. Al-Nus-Raswan (Purpur x Lady Isabel)
    8-year olds:
        1. Gil
        2. Calero
        3. Prins Abdullah vho (Abdullah x Nomari)
    9/10 year olds:
        1. Bora (Abdulla x Rose of Saron)
    11/12 year olds:
        1. Nut (Topol x Niagara)
        2. Choban (Banat x Camera)
    13/14 year olds:
        1. Garwolin (Palas x Garsonka)
        2. Mahruss (Gon x Skala)
    15/16 year olds:
        1. Jaguar (Gon x Aunt Cara)
    17 years and older:
        1. Andrut (Negatiw x Andorra)
        2. Jalisco (Figuroso x Fira)
        3. Mubark (Habdan Enzahi x Malacha)

    Champion of the 3-year olds was Nabuco, owned by the Kossack Stud.
    Chamion of the older stallions was European champion Gomel, also
    owned by Kossack Stud.

Humm.. sounds like they were actually a couple of testing where Arabian 
stallions were entered... In the US they had the 100 day test which was
what I referred to a couple of replies previous (not as prestigous as the
one the one in Holland, but maybe closer to home for some of us?

I'll bring in the 100 day article as soon as I remember it ;^)

  [Reproduced with permission from myself
   from the AHAM Feb 1990 Newsletter.]

  "Arabian Dressage At the Park"

  That's the name of the two-day show at Kentucky Horse Park that 
  drew pure- and part-Arab entries from nine states and Canada on 
  Labor Day weekend 1989.  The competition was judged by Hubert Rohrer
  of Virginia and Elaine Gibala of Indiana in Training through Grand
  Prix levels, inlcuding musical Kur. Among the winners were Sandi
  Chohany on 'EA Novette' at Fourth Level I, Greta Wrigley on 'TC Naari',
  who took the FEI option with her Prix St. Georges test, Lynne Trevor-
  Evans on half-Arab 'Montreal', who won five of six classes including 
  all four First Level Tests (she won the Best First Level Test Award with
  a score of 70.417%!), and junior rider Michal Renau who won the Best
  Training Level Test Award with a score of 66.471%. Six ribbons, including
  medals for the top three in each class, were given out by IAHA president
  Grant Johnson.  Some of the horses participating in the dressage show
  gave dressage demonstrations at the International Arabian Horse Fair
  which as also at the Park. Four grey Arabians performed a quadrille
  set to music composed for Kur in Germany. Les Wagschal, Sandi Chohany,
  and Greta Wrigley each performed Third Level exhibition Kurs, Les Wagschal
  on his Third Level National Champion 'Shamlom Mishkoh+', Sandy Chohany
  on 'EA Novette' and Greta Wrigley on 'EA Zarima'.

    SCOTTSDALE LAYS AN EGG, CAMELOT-IN-THE-DESERT ERA ENDS
    (Reprinted absolutely without permission from the March issue of 
     ARABIAN HORSE DIGEST)
    
    In spite of the dismal figures, it is fairly apparent that it was
    not the Arabian market that died at Scottsdale last month, but
    Scottsdale itself, as the Arabian capital of the world.  True, the
    sales total of just over $500,000 was one-seventh of last year's
    $3.5 million, only one percent of the 1985 high of $50 million.
    Also true, this year's average of less than $5,000 was half of last
    year's $10,000 and less than 4% of 1985's $150,000.  But that's like
    comparing apples and oranges.  With the disappearance of Lasma, 
    Karho, American Farms, and the Main Attraction sales, the entire top
    of the market disappeared -- in marketing ability if not in horse 
    quality.  Of the four remaining sales, Chauncey's, Adams' and Grandon's
    sales continue from that era, but none of them had ever worked the top
    of the market or close to it.  All along, with occasional flashes of
    gold, especially at Chauncey's, these three shored up Scottsdale's 
    middle and low market segments, and their positions remain remarkably 
    steady even today.  At $8,549, Tom Chauncey's average this year is
    just half of last year's $16,891 for a similar number of horses.
    Adams' $9,000 average is just below last year's $11,723.  So is Ed
    Grandon's Arabian Connection sale average -- $2,063 compared to $2,759
    last year.
    
    So what happened at Scottsdale last month was not as bad as it seemed
    -- just like in its best days Scottsdale was not nearly as good as it
    made out to be.  Of the two top headline sales of Scottsdale 1984, NH
    Love Potion's to Joe Joe Morrissey ended up in litigation that helped
    to bring the inflated market down, and the private sale several minutes
    later of Gardenia by Tom Chauncey to Houston financier David J. Ragan
    fell through when Ragan failed to make the payments and Chauncey took
    the mare back.  The night before, *Cometera's $1 million sale from Tom
    Lasor and Ken Johnson to a group of Louisiana buyers put together by 
    Ken Guilbeaux also petered out -- Lasor had to wait four years to take
    her back.  Of course, some of the seven and many of the six-figure
    sales were legitimate.  Chauncey did pay Lasma $1.5 million for
    Gardenia.  Bill Zekan indeed shelled out $3.6 million for the 
    Silhouette-Bonfieree-*Campilla package, and so on and so on.  But,
    without NH Love Potion, that famous 1984 Lasma Classic averaged only
    $375,000 not $436,000-dollars sales.
    
    And then the market did go down.  At the same 1984 Lasma Classic, Tom
    Chauncey sold Basktyka to the late George Huck for $400,000.  Last 
    month, Chauncey sold her again, this time to Bob Magness for $50,000.
    That's a fair reflection of what happened.  Had NH Love Potion gone
    on the block last month, she would have probably brought no more than
    10 cents on her 1984 dollar.  But she didn't.  Nor did any other horse
    of that caliber.  That had nothing to do with the market.  Had Gene
    LaCroix not quit his job and forced Lasma East to cancel its sale,
    things would not have looked so dismal.  Let's play with some figures.
    Suppose Lasma East did not cancel and sold 30-odd champion-quality
    lots for a $50,000 average.  The resulting extra $1.5 million in sales
    would have brought the Scottsdale total to $2 million, just 40% instead
    of 85% down from last year's $3.5 million.  The week's average would
    have been $15,000, actually 50% higher than 1989's.  The market is
    down, and will probably stay there for a while, but it will
    eventually come back up.  It is not clear that Scottsdale ever will.
    
    Tom Chauncey Select Sale, 2/18/90 (preliminary results)
    
    Total:  $290,650        Lots:  34   Site: Scottsdale, AZ
    Average: $8,549  Median: $5,175  Auctioneer: Dean Parker
    High: $50,000  Low: (not given) Manager: Tom Chauncey Arabians
    Reserve (Y/N): Y   %RNA: *      Disclosure: Good
    
    (Note: On the list I have, the high selling horse was the *Bask 
    daughter, Basktyka who sold for $50,000.  The low was a 1986
    *Euros filly out of Cytraska for $900.)
    
    And, just because *I'm* interested in how much *Bask daughters go
    for these days, here the list of the rest that Tom Chauncey sold:
    
    MS Baqueta (X Bandy) '73 CH $40,000
    Bint La Quinta (x SX La Quinta by *Serafix) '78 BY $31,000
    Heiress of Bask (x Heiress of Comar) '78 BY $13,500 (that's right 13!)
    Ceremonja (x Canberra) '71 CH $11,000
    
    A couple others that I found interesting were:
    
    *Bint Pohaniec (Pohaniec x *Sake) '75 Gr $2,100
    Go Lightly (*Naborr x *Bandera) '77 Gr $5,300
    
    
    

    The report I have only lists a few sales and I did not notice
    any horses by Bakkarat.
    
    I didn't go to the show.  Wish I could have.  I've heard results
    from a couple of halter and performance classes which I, of course,
    can't remember except that Kheepsake V was (I think) Reserve
    Champion Mare.  I saw her when I visited Varian in November.
    Her picture do not do her justice...she's one of the prettiest
    mares I've ever seen! 
    
    Anyway, what I'm saying here is, I don't really have any more scoop!
    
    gwen
    

   (Reproduced with permission from myself from the May issue of the
    Arabian Horse Association of Massachusetts Newsletter.)

    "The March/April issue of 'Inside International' reports that
    Canadian Chelan Kozak and her purebred arabian Azrasan are showing
    the eventing world that the old attitude of "an Arabian just won't
    do" is no longer appropriate. Azrasan is only 15 hands tall, yet 
    competes in a sport where the average horse stands at 16-17 hands.
    Kozak first competed the horse at age 6, as a jumper, clearing fences
    as high as 4 feet, 6 inches tall. When she decided to start eventing,
    she was advised that she couldn't possibly compete an arabian 
    successfully. They are now competing at the Intermediate Level, which
    is just one level below the highest level of eventing. They finished
    among the top ten in three competitions in 1989. In his three years
    as an events horse, Azrasan has not had a single cross country jump
    penalty."

    A little bit of Arab trivia:
    
    Some Arabs (I'm sure this is not breed specific) have an indentation
    in the side and toward the front of their neck.  It's referred to as
    the thumbprint of Allah and is supposed by some to be good luck (for
    the animal).
    
    gwen

    Re:  1437.5  
    
    My horse has this indentation!  I never knew what it was.  I've asked
    many vets over the years and they had no idea.  It does look like a 
    thumb indentation in his side.  He is part Arab also.
    
    Lisa
                  
    

    
    The following article is intended to help inform people about a
    particular breed of Desert-bred Arabians.  The reason I wanted to enter
    this note is to help make people aware of this strain of arabian and
    its heritage.   As some of you are aware I work on an Arabian breeding
    farm, and as most are aware Upland is closing our breeding program and
    selling both our Davenport stock and other Arabian stock (150.13 + .50)
    due to the untimely death of one of the owners of Upland Farm.
    
    Hope some of you find this as interesting as I did........
    
    DAVENPORT ARABIANS ... The History of the Davenport Arabian Horse
    (by Joyce Ballou Gregorian, copywrite 1987) copied without permission
    
      The Davenport horse today closely resembles its desert forebears:
    moderate size, fine coat, huge eye and nostrils, a disposition at once
    spirited and amenable to discipline.  Unlike other breeding groups of
    Arabians, the Davenport has not been added to oor selected from with
    non-Arabian characteristics in mind.  That is to say, Davenports have
    not been bred to resemble Saddlebreds or Thoroughbreds; there has been
    no attempt to improve on the original.  In homer Davenport's famous
    words, "The Arab in his purity is a horse of the highest courage.  In
    stature... he stands fourteen hands and two inches high and is more
    often a little under than over that.  He is a very perfect animal -- he
    is not large here and small there.  There is a balance and harmony
    throughout his frame not seen in any other horse..The eye is peculiarly
    soft and intelligent...the nostrils, long and puckered...The neck forms
    a perfect arch that matches the arch of his tail...Nature, when she
    made the Arab, made no mistake, and no man has not yet been able to
    spoil him."
      The author of the above words, Homer Davenport (1867-1912) was a
    political cartoonist, lecturer, writer and horseman.  At thge Chicago's
    World Fair in 1893 he saw the Arabian horses sent over by the Ottoman
    Empire's Hamidie Society and found in these horses a type of animal
    which satisfied both the practical considerations of a working horseman
    and the aesthetic requirements of a romantic artist.  He was as they
    say, hooked.
      By 1905, Davenport had achieved fame, influential friends, and
    temporary financial success.  At his farm in Morris Plains, NJ, he bred
    fancy fowl and exotic animals from around the world, including Chinese
    ducks, Persian sheep and zebras.  His horses included one of the Haidie
    stallions, Koubashan, as well as the Arabian stallion Nejdran imported
    by Davenport from England.  Now he approached President Roosevelt for
    help in furthering his real dream: a trip to the Arabian desert to
    choose for himself horses of genuine Bedouin origin.
      Teddy Roosevelt was personally enthusiastic about Davenport's idea. 
    Furthermore, he may have felt a certain obligation to help him.  Many
    felt that Davenport's 1904 cartoon, of Uncle Sam resting his hand on
    Roosevelt's shoulder, entilted "He's good enough for me," had
    positively influenced the election.  In any event, the President wrote
    to the Sultan of Turkey and early in 1906 Davenport had received an
    official document permitting him to export from the Ottoman Empire a
    number of Arabian horses, both male and female.  While Arabian
    stallions were routinely expeorted around the world, females were not;
    the official document made Davenport's dream a possibility.  With
    financial backing from the Massachusetts industrialist Peter Bradley,
    with whom he intended to form a partnership breeding Arabian horses,
    Davenport and two companions set sail.
      Fortune favored Davenport throughout his trip. He went in summer,
    "off season", for tourists but the best time for easily locating the
    Anazeh Bedouin tribes. He made the lucky error of paying his respects
    to the local Bedouin Sheik, Akmet Haffez, before calling on the Turkish
    Governor, Nazim Pasha.  Akmet Haffez delighted with the honor paid by
    the American visitor, gave Davenport his finest war mare, the noble
    *Wadduda. Nazim Pasha, who could not afford to look less generous than
    the Bedouin leader, countered with the gift of his finest stallion,
    "the pride of the desert" *Haleb.
      With the personal help of Akmet  Haffez, Davenport selected 27 horses
    in all.  He returned to America with a shipment of horses unlike any
    other to leave the desert at any time in the recorded history of
    Arabian horse breeding -- mares and stallions, many of whom had
    actually been in use as war horses by the Anazeh Bedouin at the time of
    purchase (*Wadduda actually bore lance scars on her body).  On arrival
    in the US, some of the horses went to Peter Bradley's Hingham STock
    farm and some to Davneport's "Desert Arabian Stud" in Morris Plains.
      Davenport published a catalogue of his horses in 1910, listing 40
    horses, 24 of whom were from the 1906 importation. But by 1912 he was
    dead, and Davenport's desert-bred horses were in danger of extinction
    as a breeding group. Davenport horses were dispersed about the country.
    Carl Raswan selected a number for the Kellogg Ranch, and these
    Davenports, bred to each other and out-crossed on Kellogg's English
    imports, created many famous champion horses of the early days. Pure
    Davenports include Rudolf Valentino's mount Jadaan, Golden Antez
    exported to Poland and reimported some years later, Hanad, the hight
    school performer and Will Roger's mount Letan. Famous part-Davenports
    include Ibn Hanrah and Tsali, Saki and Bint Sahara.  The American
    Arabian, which has set a world standard fo excellence, was built in a
    large part on Davenport's desert-breds. 
       But success almost destroyed the Davenport horse. It outcrossed so
    well that very few breeders bothered with preservation breedings. By
    the mid 1950's when Charles Craver set about preserving Davenport's
    unique race of Bedouin horses only 16 individuals of straight Davenport
    blood could be found.  These horses, known as the "Second Foundation"
    were in many cases aged and infirm.
      By 1985, counting through Volume 52 of the studbook, there weere 423
    living Davenport horses;  180 stallions and 243 mares.  Of this number
    only 38 were foaled before 1970 -- a number which does not indicate
    lack of longevity but rather a tiny original polulation. Eighty years
    after Davenport's historic imporation, there are almost enough straight
    Davenport horses alive to assure their survival.
      Does it matter whether the Davenport horse survives? After all, its
    contribution to American bloodlines in general is a fact that cannot be
    altered. We will not lose the Davenport blood represented in horses
    like Fadjur, ferson, Khemosabi and Tsatyr. As showhorse enthusiasts
    would be quick to point out, the Davenport horse in its antique purity
    of form hardly fits the modern idea of a big, bold, strutting animal
    trotting high and disunited about the ring. So why do we need to
    preserve the desert-bred type of horse--this relic of the Bedouin's
    days of mounted warfare?
      Some of us who breed Davenport horses do so out of an antiquarian or
    romantic impulse, the desire to preserve for future generations a type
    of horse still marvellously unchanged from centuries past, the horse
    described by desert travellers in early writings. Some of us do it in
    the sad belief that today's Arabian horse has been so grossly altered
    by fashion, whim and high finance as to be amost unrecognizeable, and
    animal that can only be saved by crosses back to pure desert bloodlines
    and type. Some of us breed Davenport horses for aestitic pleasure and
    warm companionship to be found in these animals.  But interestingly
    enough, most of us who breed Davenports also train and use them,
    frequently a rarity in today's Arabian horse world.
    
    _____________
    

    Thank you for including that interesting information about the Davenport
    Arabians. The Arabian is such an exquisite breed and Upland Farm has
    fine stock. Joyce's passing was a loss to the horse/Arabian world as she
    was so dedicated to the Davenport Arabian. I was very sorry - and
    shocked to hear that she had died - not only because I appreciate the
    Arabian breed but because she was a good person with interests
    extending far beyond the horseworld. 
    
    Pat