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Title: Bicycling
Notice:Bicycling for Fun
Moderator:JAMIN::WASSER
Created:Mon Apr 14 1986
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1377.0. "European Trade Show Report" by CESARE::JOHNSON (Matt Johnson, DTN 871-7473) Mon Nov 27 1989 14:13

    I attended the 51st International Exposition of Cycles and Motorcycles
    in Milan on Saturday.  This is probably the biggest bike show in the
    world -- five giant buildings full of bikes, clothing, and accessories
    of every description.  

    About 40% of the booths were dedicated to bicycles.  Myself and two
    other guys spent over six hours going from booth to booth, and we still
    didn't see everything!  Since I'm not a paid journalist, I won't try to
    recount all of the items of note.  Instead, I'll just scribble in the
    things that stood out for me.  If anyone has any special interest, just
    say so, and I'll try to recall what I saw.


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1377.1Bicycles, Frames, and TubingCESARE::JOHNSONMatt Johnson, DTN 871-7473Mon Nov 27 1989 14:14199
VITUS

At the Vitus booth, I ran across some literature that said that bikes
(like cars and motorcycles) are moving from frames to chassis as the
basis for their design.  If anything was the theme of the show, this
was.  Battaglin, Cinelli, Colnago, Kestral, Vitus, Sannino, and others
all had one or more models made completely of composite materials, 
without normal tubes or lugs.

Vitus was showing off their own wild carbon-fiber "chassis" called the
ZX-1.  All the components just sort of hung off this strange aero
sculpture -- not a tube in sight.

For more pedestrian cyclists, Vitus is still designing new Aluminum
frames.  They have a hefty mountain bike version now, as well as one 
destined for cyclocross.  The cyclocross one has a new "tuning fork" 
style seat stay, but otherwise looks like their old frame with more
relaxed angles.


COLUMBUS

Columbus wasn't listening to Vitus, or perhaps they've heard loud and
clear, and are now on the counterattack.  They announced yet another
new line of steel tubing for road bikes, called EL.  It's made of
Nivacrom (the super-hard alloy they use in MAX), but has thinner
sidewalls for a total weight of 1.6 kg. This puts it in the same
ballpark as aluminum for a frame.  It also should alleviate some of
the problems with MAX, which is too stiff for normal use. EL has a
tapered downtube, but everything else appeared to be round.  Nobody
was showing a bike built out of this stuff yet, so it may be a while
before it appears at your neighborhood shop.

Around the exposition, lots of people were showing Crit and TT bikes
made out of MAX.  These were pretty wild-looking, as all the tubes are
tapered, and the convention among builders is to extend the top tube
beyond the seat post a couple of cm, and then saw it off flat.  The
frames look like they're made out of intersecting chopsticks!  The TT
bikes look more practical than the road bikes.


CINELLI

Cinelli builds bikes that are meant to be drooled over as they hang
from the wall.  I've never seen anyone ride one.  The "Evolution"
track model is the most beautiful bike I've ever seen.  The steering
tube ends below the top of the top tube, so that the steering stem
points forward at exactly the same level and angle as the gracefully
reclining top tube.  The simplified lines that result are profound. 
The finish is a classy light blue pearl, and there are no decals
anywhere.  It's a work of art, not a bicycle....


RIVA TRECIA

For $4000, you can buy a seven kilo titanium bike.  They do not sell
frames separately, because they replace major components with titanium 
equivalents, and custom-machine parts for individual riders'
dimensions. (For example, they will change the length of the bottom
bracket spindle to match your stance.)  People were lined up to get
measured and buy these rarefied beasts.  And yes, there's a mountain
bike, too....


MASI

My first close look at the 3V frames.  I think the main tubes are
steel with a wrapping of kevlar and carbon fiber, but I'm not sure. 
There's a little raised ring where each lug joins the tube,
(ironically) just like the cheapo Raleigh Technium bikes.  One of the
frames was pearl-colored, and cast a rainbow-like sheen as you walked
around it.  Another (a TT bike) had seat stays that met the seat tube
only halfway up, instead of at the top.


SANNINO

They want about $1000 for a MAX frame.  Mauro's son told me that they
had measured the rear triangle stiffness of the MAX prototype they
built, and it was double that of MS.  (MS is enough for me, thanks.)  
Sannino's had the nicest brazing I've seen -- supposedly it took them
four days to finish it!  Somehow, I don't think they'll use the same
process on the production models....


BOTTECHIA

Greg Lemond's Tour-winning TT bike was there.  (The handlebars definitely
looked home-made.)


MOSER

Franceso himself was there, sequestered in one of the little
negotiating rooms that his booth had.  Whenever he stuck his head out,
he drew crowds.  All kinds of great historical racing photos were on
the walls.  His bikes all use German (Oria) tubing, and Japanese
(Shimano) components.  His lugless frames look nice, except for the
cheesy "airbrush and masking tape" paint jobs. The seat tubes  extend
past the seat stay/top tube junction towards the seat, like Klein's
do.


COLNAGO

Beppe Saronni was there signing autographs.  There weren't that many
takers. People were interested in the bikes, though.  Ernesto had
"Ferrari Engineering" emblazoned on all the walls, and he was showing
the "funny bikes" that came out of the Colnago/Ferrari joint venture. 
The twin-downtube carbon-fiber model used in the Giro was the feature.
Virtually every Colnago bike (steel, carbon fiber, or aluminum) now
comes with straight forks.  They had a couple of really gaudy "special
edition" steel bikes with gold-plated components, crocodile saddles,
etc. Yuck!


ROSSIN

Wow, what a paint job on their latest models.  One was in green
glitter with about a thousand layers of protective clear-coat. 
Liberace would have paid  dearly for that one!  Then there were zebra,
checkered, splattered, faded, you-name-it combinations.  Practically
every type of tubing is used, including Tange prestige on one of the
top models.


MERCKX/DE ROSA

Combined stand: 10th anniversary for Merckx, 30th for De Rosa.  Very
traditional bikes. The most "radical" thing was Merckx's use of
Columbus TSX tubing (yawn). De Rosa's sticking to his guns with SL/SLX. 
If you want a classic Italian racing bike, none is closer to the real
thing than a De Rosa.  But hurry, who knows how much longer they'll
hold out....


BASSO

Not so well known in Italy.  The Ascot (MS) has blinding orange paint
on the rear triangle, with white and green elsewhere.  They also had
the Monza, with MAX tubing.


BIANCHI/LEGNANO

"Emotions rise" was their theme.  They had "inspirational" music playing,
and bikes set on little flood-lit stages, out of reach.  Gross.


LOOK

Their new frames are very sleek -- carbon fiber, with exotically
shaped lugs.  They had three photo models dressed up in red tights,
wearing giant mock-ups of their new cycle computer as headpieces. 
Those goofy French....


MUDDY FOX

They were only letting dealers into the booth, but I still peeked in the
window.  Real serious-looking off-road bikes, all in flat black.  They
have at least three models that fall between a typical mountain bike
and a cyclocrosser.  A hybrid of that kind is just what I've been
looking for, so I was  pretty depressed to have to gaze on them from
afar.


MIYATA-KONI(?)

Mean-looking mountain bikes.  They had one where the crank was mounted
on a triangular piece of aluminum that hung down from the main
"chassis". The American salesman was talking about how strong it was,
but everybody was asking how you'd manage to shoulder an off-road bike
shaped like that (an important feature at times!).


KLEIN

A big, friendly American guy was there, who didn't speak a word of
Italian.  Who knows, maybe it was (David?/Gary?/Bob?) Klein himself. 
Behind him was a really sexy aluminum mountain bike, with a huge
front fork and steering tube.  We were shown the custom-made headset,
which looked strong enough to steer a truck.  But my  Italian friends
oohed and aahed the most when they heard that a complete bike weighed
9.5 kilos.  With Deore XT II, it goes for $1825 ("in America", the
Klein rep was quick to add).


SCOTT

They had a system called "softride", which replaced the normal stuff
that supports the seat on a MT bike (like a seatpost, seat tube,
seatstays) with a long fiber arm that stretched from a spot near
the handlebars back to where it held the seat.  There was no visible
means of support -- just the torsion of the arm to hold the rider's
weight.  There were also front forks with 4" of suspension travel.  I
assume that this bike is useful only for downhill competition -- it
would drive me crazy to have the distance to the pedals constantly
changing.  Does anyone know more about this contraption?
1377.2Components and AccessoriesCESARE::JOHNSONMatt Johnson, DTN 871-7473Mon Nov 27 1989 14:17109
CAMPY

o Nearly all Campy gruppos are now available in a "Graphite" finish, a much
  darker color than the typical polished aluminum.  For the most part,
  I didn't care for it.  (Campy's polished aluminum is the nicest in the
  world, so why use a different finish?)  I have to admit that the 
  Chorus derailleur and brakes look nice that way, though.

o The mountain gruppos now offer a twist-grip shift mechanism.  It worked
  great on the stand, but everybody wondered if it would be practical on
  the trail.  Would the jolt of your hands on a bump cause a spontaneous 
  shift?  (We saw a Shimano system later that made more sense: a collar
  mounted next to the grip that you could slide your hand over to twist.)

o C-Record (now just called Record) gets a new derailleur, which supposedly
  works well with click-shift.

o I got a six-page brochure on the Campy aero waterbottle.  Talk about
  over-engineering -- they've done aerodynamic, ergonomic and hydrothermic 
  studies of it. (Yes, the top model [there's more than one] has built-in 
  insulation for your precious dose of Exceed.)

o There's a new low-end road gruppo called Xenon.  It seems to copy a lot
  of Japanese features; its only claim to fame is the five-position adjustment
  of the rear derailleur to handle max cog sizes of between 20 and 30 teeth.
  I got a brochure, but I couldn't read it, 'cause it was in German!


SUNTOUR

They had their new brakehandle-mounted shifters for road bikes.  The
idea is great, but I thought the shape could be improved.  I'll wait
for the inevitable Shimano knock-off.  The Mountain-bike twin-lever
shifters were really nice -- but Shimano had these, too.  Suntour even
came out with their own clipless pedal.  ("Why?" I have to ask....)

The neatest thing by far was the Browning Servomagnetic shift system
for the chainrings.  I played with it for a few minutes, and it seemed
to work great.  They're marketing it under the name "The BEAST".


SHIMANO

Hyperglide will work on my 8-speed Dura Ace as is.  Not that I'm
particularly ready to throw away all my existing cogs just to get it;
it's just nice to know that Shimano seems to be catching on to the
idea of "backward  compatibility"


MALTHAUSER/MAGURA

I always thought that hydraulic brakes were a gimmick before.  Now
that I've tried them, I'm impressed!  They have great feel, and plenty
of force.  They might be a match for my Campy Record Deltas, but I'd
have to take them on the road to say.


REGINA

They've come out with their own gruppo, for some reason.  The brakes
are the only interesting feature -- the pads are mounted on swingarms,
which swing along a vertical axis, instead of a horizontal one (like
every other brake in the world).  The construction looked a little
cheesy.


FIR

Besides their penta- and tri-spoked wheels, these guys were showing a
TTT bike with a solid front wheel that bulged in the middle.  The
front axle was about 30cm long!  The idea was to reduce the turbulence
caused by  the cyclists legs.  Unfortunately (or fortunately,
depending upon your point of view), this was ruled illegal when the
bike was entered in this year's Giro d'Italia.


WOLBER

They had Jeannine Longo's world hour record bike in the middle of the
stand.   It was geared at 56x16.  [Try pushing that for an hour
sometime!]

Wolber was showing off their new "self centering" Profil TB tubulars. 
They don't have a separate innertube; everything is sandwiched
together into a form that leaves a lip where each side of the tire
meets the edge of the rim.   (The sales rep gave me a sample.) 

That seemed like something of a gimmick to me -- many Clement tires
have had this shape for years.  What got our attention was that the
new construction process allows permanent repairs to be made (using a
special spray) in one minute, without removing the tire!  If it works,
this feature could breath new life into the sagging market for
tubulars.  

The current models are designed for triathlons.  I'm going to wait for
them to bring out a "road" model before trying them, because the
current ones have the dreaded center ridge (for "aerodynamics").


VITTORIA

Gross new bold graphics on the sidewalls.  Fortunately, the CX was spared.
No other news of note.


HANDLEBARS (all brands)

Tri bars have finally arrived in Europe.  Everybody was showing two or
three models of them.  Bikes on stands all over the place had them.
1377.3CuriositiesCESARE::JOHNSONMatt Johnson, DTN 871-7473Mon Nov 27 1989 14:2221
    Several low-tech Indian and Taiwanese bike manufacturers were there,
    drumming up wholesale business.  It was funny to see steel cottered
    cranks, 10 kilo frames, and industrial racks on bikes in the middle of
    all the carbon fiber.  Some of the Taiwanese were pretty avant-garde,
    however.  For the first time, Giant had their bikes from Korea.  Will
    we see an invasion in Europe like the one that's happened in America?

    We didn't pay too much attention to the motorcycle stands.  It might as
    well have been two separate shows.  I noticed that nearly all the 
    motorcyclists smoked, while none of the cyclists did.  I had time to
    peek at a 125cc Suzuki motocrosser that claimed to put out 38hp.  It
    reminded me of when I used to race open class motocross on a 41hp YZ400
    -- at the time, it was the most powerful thing on the market!  12 years
    sure have changed things.... I'd be scared to death to jump on one of
    today's 60+hp open class bikes.
    
    And the showstopper was....a bike ALARM.  It was a little plastic
    unit with a wire that could be looped through the rear wheel. If 
    the loop was broken, or the bike was moved without inserting the
    key, an alarm went off.  Great, another incentive for little kids
    to knock over my bike at rest stops!
1377.4odd items...?ENGINE::PAULHUSChris @ MLO6B-2/T13 dtn 223-6871Mon Nov 27 1989 14:365
    Any recumbents?
    or non-race-legal aero aids like fairings?
    or enclosed commuter-bikes?
    	- Chris
    
1377.5A LITTLE MORE.... PLEASE?WMOIS::C_GIROUARDMon Nov 27 1989 15:107
     What about Columbus' new TSX tubing? Anything on that?
    
     What about C-DALE? Did they participate?
    
     Any other significant changes in the Record stuff besides the finish?
     (I'm hoping for some RECORD stuff from Santa this Christmas)
     BTW, I agree, Campy's finish is primo and the other one sounds crappy!
1377.6Recumbents and FairingsCESARE::JOHNSONMatt Johnson, DTN 871-7473Mon Nov 27 1989 15:1111
    I forgot.  There were Linear recumbents on display outside (where they
    could be demonstrated); both the low and high handlebar varieties.
    They were getting surprisingly little attention.
    
    I also saw these crazy plastic enclosures to mount on a bike.  They
    gave full upright body coverage, at what I expect was a huge
    aerodynamic cost.  I think they came from some third-world supplier.
    With these things attached, a bike stood about two meters tall.
    
    I didn't see any zzipper fairings, or the like.  Maybe they were
    in the one convention hall we didn't have time to reach.
1377.7TSX, Cannondale, and Campy RecordCESARE::JOHNSONMatt Johnson, DTN 871-7473Mon Nov 27 1989 15:1810
    As I mentioned, Merckx is using TSX.  A number of others are also 
    building TSX frames, but it's not getting a lot of attention.  The
    stuff's basically an optimization of SLX, for looong road races
    (like the pros do) -- not for crits, short road races, or TTs.
    
    Cannondale wasn't there, as far as I could tell.  That was really
    surprising, since there was Trek, Mongoose, Diamondback, Specialized,
    and other brands you see often in the States.
    
    No changes besides the new derailleur I mentioned for Record.
1377.8who said engineers can't write???USCTR1::PJOHNSONMon Nov 27 1989 16:159
    Matt,
    
    I don't know how good an engineer you are, but I think you missed
    your calling.  Judging from your Tour de France notes and these
    latest masterpieces you should be a journalist!
    
    Thanks for the info and keep those cards and letters coming...
    
    Phil
1377.9ULTRA::WITTENBERGUphill, Into the WindMon Nov 27 1989 17:244
    Where can  I  get  a  copy  of the Campy water bottle brochure? It
    sounds crazy enough to be fun.

--David
1377.10JUMBLY::MACFADYENTue Nov 28 1989 08:3318
    Thanks for the excellent report, Matt. These shows are great to visit,
    aren't they? But it's positively painful to luxuriate in an abundance
    of goodies you know you can't afford.
    
    Were Raleigh exhibiting at all? Here in the UK they're advertising a
    new and innovative line of steel frames, named Dynatech. The innovation
    is that the steel tubes are glued into alloy lugs with the claimed
    result that none of the steel's temper is lost due to brazing. I'm
    contemplating reaching into my pocket to get one next year. I would
    have thought they might have taken a stand at the Milan show.
    
    I was interested in your mention of the Suntour brake-mounted gear
    levers for road bikes. Would it tax your literary powers overmuch to
    describe the brake/gear lever arrangement? I'm very curious to know how
    they do it.
    
    
    Rod
1377.11"blinded with science"SHALOT::ELLISJohn Lee Ellis - assembly requiredTue Nov 28 1989 11:2711
    
    I'd also be interested in the Campy-aero-watterbottle spec!
    
    And if you need translation help with the German brochure, 
    let me know.
    
    Now that I have what you describe as the classic Italian road
    frame (De Rosa), sounds like time for an avant garde 3rd bike...
    just for variety. :-)
    
    -john
1377.12Raleigh, Suntour levers, Campy bottle brochureCESARE::JOHNSONMatt Johnson, DTN 871-7473Thu Nov 30 1989 11:0316
    I have to admit that the only thing I remember about the Raleigh booth
    was a woman handing out decals that had the Raleigh logo on them, but
    with the word "America" written under them.  I've been so unimpressed
    with their recent bikes that I didn't even look at their new ones.  It
    sounds like I missed something!
    
    The Suntour shift levers were surprisingly large.  They are about 10 cm
    long, with a pivot in the middle.  There's about a 20 degree bend
    upwards at each end.  You have to reach forward a little with your
    thumb from the brakehood to shift up (I think), and backwards a bit
    to shift down.  The attachment isn't really to the brake itself, but
    to the bars very near the brake.
    
    The brochure on the water bottles is in Italian.  I have no idea where
    you could find another.  Maybe at your local Campy dealer?  The bottles
    have been out on the market for a while.