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Conference noted::bicycle

Title: Bicycling
Notice:Bicycling for Fun
Moderator:JAMIN::WASSER
Created:Mon Apr 14 1986
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:3214
Total number of notes:31946

543.0. "frame material ???" by NEXUS::MONROE () Tue Feb 09 1988 17:48

    What is the difference with all of the frame material ?
    SP  SL  SLX  Tange  ect...
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543.1Tubing typesCIMNET::MJOHNSONMatt JohnsonTue Feb 09 1988 18:3819
    Several companies make frame materials of various grades.  Sticking
    with steel alloy tubing, we have the big three (Columbus, Tange,
    and Reynolds) and a number of producers who make their own (Miyata,
    3Rensho, Fuji).  Different tubes are best for different applications,
    so there's always a range.  Here are some examples:
    
		    Columbus	Tange		Reynolds
    
"Sport"		    Matrix	Tange CRMO	CRMO
"Racing"	    SL		1,2		531
"Luxury"	    SLX         Prestige	753
"Heavy-Duty"	    SP

    The categories on the right are purposely vague.  The luxury category,
    in particular, contains three completely different tube types. 
    SLX tubing is rifled on the inside with extra supporting material,
    making it stiffer and stronger with little increase in weight.
    753 is the lightest steel alloy tube made.  Prestige is really strong,
    easier to braze, and well finished.  
543.2Well...AKOV11::POLLARDTue Feb 09 1988 18:5121
    Columbus SL,SP,SLX,SPX,KL, Blah, blah...  Same alloy, different
    guages - with and without rifling.
    
    Reynolds 2 alloys, lots of guages and bends with 531, at least.
    
    Tange - Still another manufacturer with probably more alloys than
    	    the other two.
    
    Which is best?  It depends.  It ALWAYS depends.  People can and
    do argue for hours and pages.  You can get great bikes made with
    any of the above.
    
    One of my bikes is an SL/SP mix, the other is SLX.  I like the SLX
    bike better, but I don't think that the tubing has much to do with
    the difference.  There are better things to worry about when you
    go down to the High Wheeler this weekend.  If I got a great deal
    on a 3Rensho, I might learn to love Tange.
    
    Go down to CXO1 and find Steve Mandraccia, Stan Manzanares, Roger
    Caldwell, or "the Grizz."  They'll be glad to BS with you about
    bikes and tubes and such.
543.3Its strong, harsh, heavy and CHEAP; "Perfect"MENTOR::REGFunction->Function_al->Functional_ity->Functionality_ableWed Feb 10 1988 14:3523
    
    At the cheap and heavy end add Columbus Tenax (no, its NOT a decsystem
    10 operating system).   Harsh riding but strong, great for those who
    have any of the following problems:-
    
    a)	Chainstays "concertinna" when they sprint. 
    
    b)	Chain derails from the front ring when they sprint or climb
    	steep hills.
        
    c)	Too cheap to buy a good frame.
    
    d)	Like a good deal on price, whether the product is right for
    	them or not.

    e)	Have Walter Mitty illusions about wanting to look like a track
    	rider on the road. 
        
    VERY likey that my next bike will be built out of this for reasons
    c) through e) above; not because I play accordian with my legs.

    	Reg