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Title: Bicycling
Notice:Bicycling for Fun
Moderator:JAMIN::WASSER
Created:Mon Apr 14 1986
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:3214
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2140.0. "Track cycling" by RUTILE::MACFADYEN (Stop, look, listen!) Fri Dec 06 1991 06:41

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2140.1Sounds like funNOVA::FISHERRdb/VMS DinosaurFri Dec 06 1991 08:546
    You gotta be cra...  On the other hand, some of us are anyway aren't
    we?  Looks like, sounds like, must be FUN.
    
    I hope you're going back for more.
    
    ed
2140.2Severe envy...IDEFIX::HEMMINGSLanterne RougeFri Dec 06 1991 10:2112
2140.3take 'em on the road, too....SUSHI::KMACDONALDcat grep; make man more?Fri Dec 06 1991 11:5314
track bikes are great - I built up a fixed bike from an old touring frame,
clincher 27" wheels and 1 brake, rode it commuting 20 mi. RT to work for
several years. P'raps this winter I'll try to get it running again. Great
exercise on the road. Art Longsjo (former racer from Fitchburg, MA, died
at height of career in auto crash) used to do daily training rides from
Fitchburg, into Vermont mtns, back down thru Keene NH and home - 180 miles
on a fixed gear, through some fairly serious hills.

Was curious to see that your cog unscrewed; usually there's a reverse-threaded
section on the outer side of the hub to screw on a lock-ring. Of course,
you can fake it by screwing on the cog (onto a std hub) and following it with
a bottom bracket lockring - I think English fits. Good cheap way to try it
out to see if you like riding fixed....
                                       ken
2140.4Digressing slightly, but...BHUNA::GGOODMANNumber 1 in a field of 1Fri Dec 06 1991 12:3616
    
    
    	I've never tried track racing, but I think that the 'Cycling Powers
    That Be' made a mistake in deciding the main events. The pursuit is a
    very difficult event, as is the kilo, but neither are exactly
    stimulating to watch. I know that we don't do it to be watched, but
    over the years, an event that isn't watched dies out since the up and
    coming riders always start by watching events. If they think it looks
    fun, they'll try it.
    
    	They should concentrate on madison style events which are
    infinitely more exciting. But alas, you never see them except during a
    few elite events in winter.
    
    Graham.
     
2140.5VOGON::REEVEYour walrus hurt the one you love.Mon Dec 09 1991 07:3512
Hello Rod,

Yeah, I agree that it sounds like an interesting pursuit. I tried a track only
once and got thrown out quickly for using my regular road bike. I guess it
showed up a little easily. I certainly agree that going up on the bank requires
a degree of confidence. I tried, but couldn't get up them in four or five laps;
I still claim it's because my bottom bracket was too low!

Thanks for reminding us of another use for bikes. It certainly must be nice not
to have to keep looking over your shoulder for cars.

Tim
2140.6RUTILE::MACFADYENFree radicalMon Dec 09 1991 09:447
Not so fast Tim, you have to be paranoid about what's behind you on a
track. Someone can easily be coming up on you fast and they can pass on
either side. You've got to steer a straight line and keep a good look-out.
Norbert could say a lot more, I'm sure.


Rod
2140.7I LOVE IT!!CTHQ3::JENIN::FREREEllas Danzan SolasMon Dec 09 1991 16:4728
2140.8not Tom Petty...SHALOT::ELLISJohn Lee Ellis - assembly requiredMon Dec 09 1991 16:5213
    
    A faint echo of the foregoing tales is my 24-hour ride on a
    racetrack ... well, ok, it was the Charlotte Motor Speedway,
    so the banking was not very steep, and in fact not curved
    banking ... but you still needed some momentum to stay up top,
    and some calculation to swoop down gracefully.  
    
    The track was asphalt covered with rubber granules (from 
    race-car tires).  A friend came out at night on his mountain bike
    and had lots of fun getting up above and behind me than swooping
    down, fearless, at some velocity, like a bird of prey.
    
    -john
2140.9LEHIGH COUNTRY VELODROMEAKOCOA::FULLERMon Dec 09 1991 17:558
    I did my try at a velodrome in Trexlortown PA about 6 years ago.  I
    only had my touring bike with me, getting a ride to Lancaster to start
    a tour.  To me this is a perfect way for pre-work workout.  To think...
    this is a public (county) facility! 
    
    My dream is to win mega-bucks and build a velodrome in central MA.
    
    steve
2140.10Always watch out - somebody could be faster than your-selfMVSX00::MVSX02::GISLERI wish I had more energy - or less ambitionTue Dec 10 1991 04:3525
	re .5 and .6
	
	you are right, what ever your speed is (or almost) there could be 
	somebody else cycling even faster. So each time you change direction,
	either to overtake some one in front of you, to climb up the banking or
	to swoop down always have a look back either on the left or the right. 
	It's difficult in the beginning, but after a while you almost can feel
	the people on the track. You begin to know them and just in the end 
	of the curve you can overlook almost three quarter of the track. But 
	anyway, it does need full concentration all the time. 

	For your information: last year I used a 53 x 16 (which corresponds to
	7.07 meters) this year I tried 52 x 16 (6.94 meters). The second is 
	of course much easier to turn, but it's more difficult catch a fast
	"train" and to follow. So maybe I'll change back again, but only after
	my pursuit race of next saturday. It's a pursuit of 15 laps = 2.5 km. 
	That's a race to blast off your lung. 

	In my opinion, the real fun is when there are four to six guys of 
	about the same force, starting at about 35 km/h, relaying after about
	three laps, and accelerating continuously up to 45 km/h and trying
	to be the last one of the group blowing up. I like it.
	
	Norbert  
2140.11Welcome to the velodromeSIEVAX::CROWTHERPikeTue Dec 10 1991 13:4518
     Rod - 
    
     You lived in Reading UK for 3 years and never rode the track at
     Palmer Park? Shame on you :-)
    
     I believe the Reading track is one of the best in the U.K., but
     it probably is pretty grotty compared with most French tracks.
     It has a banking angle of only 15% and is laid with 
     asphalt rather than wood.  There is no roof, so the spray is 
     blinding when it is wet and you are at the back of a chain gang! 
     One good thing though - you can ride road bikes on Mondays and 
     Saturdays.
    
     BTW Is there any advantage in wooden plank tracks - aren't they 
     a bit slippery?
    
     Nigel.
           
2140.12Wot no roof?KURMA::GGOODMANNumber 1 in a field of 1Tue Dec 10 1991 14:408
    
    	The Meadowbank track in Edinburgh is the best in UK. Unfortunately,
    someone had the brainstorm of building a track in Scotland without a
    roof to protect it from the rain. What a brilliant idea! Now, why
    didn't I think of that?
    
    Graham.
    
2140.13back into BICYCLE with another ratholeMOVIES::WIDDOWSONRod, VMSE-ED013. 824-3391Tue Dec 10 1991 16:308
    RE .-1 didn't they call it the Welly-drome ?
    
    Actually I think the smartest thing that they thought of for the last
    commonwealth games was the idea to put the road race up and down the
    Edinburgh bypass (less interesting than highway 3 between Lowell and
    Nashua) when there is some spectacular countryside - both scenery and
    from a racing point of view - which is well within a 120m roadrace...  But
    I digress...
2140.14Re .11RUTILE::MACFADYENFree radicalTue Dec 10 1991 17:017
I did ride at Palmer Park once, one cold December evening a year ago. But
riding a road bike round a 400m outdoor track is very different to riding 
a track bike round a 166m indoor track. Both are good training, but the
latter is a lot more exciting.


Rod
2140.15improviseWLDWST::SANTOS_EWed Dec 18 1991 14:4812
    do not be dicouraged if you do not have a tract nearby , as long as 
    you can come up with a fixed gear setup you can begin to explore a
     whole new feeling . 
      my real love for tract bikes are due to their simplicity and
    increadible speed during accelleration , when you get to your top 
    speed slowing down is another question. I found it acceptable to
    go around secluded city blocks for night trainings , whats even 
    better is if you have some knobbies you can go on your local high
    school tract (running) and go round and round as fast as you can
    without loosing it. I guarantee you once you rode tract bikes you
    wont wan't to ride 10 speeds again . also here in the U.S. there
    are beginer classes held on most tracts for about $60 check it out.
2140.16SCUBA::SLABOUNTYTrouble with a capital 'T'Mon Jul 10 1995 16:1211
    
    	I rode by the Northbridge [MA] High School track last week and
    	they only allow walkers/runners on the track, so I'm looking
    	for info on where to find some kind of a track that I can ride
    	a hybrid on.
    
    	I'd love to be able to do 15-20 miles on a relatively level
    	surface instead of the "roller coaster" roads near my house,
    	so if anyone knows of any that are local to the central MA
    	area I'd be very grateful.
    
2140.17CONSLT::MCBRIDEReformatted to fit your screenMon Jul 10 1995 16:273
    Check out the bike path from Bedford to Boston, about 10 miles of
    abondoned RR track, paved.  You will have to share with walkers,
    joggers, roller blades etc.
2140.18UHUH::LUCIAhttp://asaab.zko.dec.com/people/tjl/biography.htmlTue Jul 11 1995 17:172
Don't ride the MM trail when it's nice out.  If you do, watch for kids and dogs,
neither of which understand what the yellow line down the middle is for.