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Title: Bicycling
Notice:Bicycling for Fun
Moderator:JAMIN::WASSER
Created:Mon Apr 14 1986
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:3214
Total number of notes:31946

2338.0. "HELP!! Is the 1200 for SDI worth it?" by CSLALL::KIMBALL () Wed Jul 01 1992 13:44

    	I am looking for some help buying a bike. 
    I want to do some Biathalons as well as some cycle racing.
    I will also use it to commute the 25 miles to work. 
    That will be the bulk of my training. So far I like the Cannondale
    R600 and Schwinn 684. Actually I didn't care for the
    Schwinn all that much but I like the dealer (Sawyers in Haverhill they
    are great for families but not very heavy into racing )
     Both were available for about $700-. 
     I tried the Trek 2100 and 1200 and liked them both except for
    the location of the shift lever. Same with a Bianchi I tried. 
    I didn't like leaning over so far. I felt too unstable.
    I really liked the STI shifting. That's a whole different bracket
    though. I was talking with someone yesterday who almost had me convinced
    to go for what I really want which is the STI but the $$ really makes
    me think hard. Has anyone got any advice on a bike with or without
    the STI?
      Should I wait till next year and see if the price of a bike with STI
    comes down?
         Reid
    
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2338.1COUPLE SUGGESTIONSAKOCOA::FULLERWed Jul 01 1992 13:5213
    With the assumption that you do not want to increase your budget,
    buy the bike you like, then upgrade to bar-end shifters until you have
    the money for STI.  This is certainly save you $$$.  Currently a
    brakeset with STI shifting is about $300. (ultregra), so you won't
    be that much behind in $$$ if you buy now and start riding!
    
    One other question, if you are doing Biathalon's, are you going to be
    putting on Tri-bars.  If so, this could change your choices on the
    shifter.
    
    
    steve
    
2338.2STI optionsYNGSTR::BROWNWed Jul 01 1992 14:146
    You could always wait til next year's 105 line, which will be STI.
    That component set should dribble down the Trek line to maybe the 14xx.
    Else, the carbon Specialized Epic is considered by many to be one
    of the best values for a bike already equipped with STI (under
    $1300).  .02
    
2338.3JURA::PELAZ::MACFADYENOnly scratching the surfaceWed Jul 01 1992 15:307
.2>    You could always wait til next year's 105 line, which will be STI.

Is this true? How'd you know?


Roddy
    
2338.4STI on 105YNGSTR::BROWNWed Jul 01 1992 15:563
    re .last
    I think I read it in Bicycling.  I got the impression the term
    "light weight" won't be used when describing it, however.
2338.5105 STI coming soon?BAGELS::GOTANTASWed Jul 01 1992 16:307
    
    re: .3 and .4
    
    A local dealer confirmed this...he said that 105 STI may be available
    in the fall or would be available by the spring on the '93 bikes. He
    didn't know the weight or the price, though.
    
2338.6NOT AN EASY ANSWER...WMOIS::GIROUARD_CWed Jul 01 1992 17:1618
     I you're serious about biathlons and communiting with the same
    bike, you'd be better off with the STI stuff.
    
     If you are thinking of "tricking out" the bike for biathlons you
    may want to consider a "swift-shift" set-up for your aero bars.
    
      From an even semi-purist perspective, you really can't achieve a
     commuter/biathlon bike without swapping stuff around. Your even
     questions even bring the frame into the equation. The Schwinn
     frame would be much more conducive to commuting where the C Dale
     is a better choice for biathlons. 
    
     It will really boil itself down to decisions you'll have to make on
    what the bike's purpose is that you really need/want.
    
     The answer? IDUNNO
    
              Chip
2338.7Ditto ChipODIXIE::RRODRIGUEZR-SQUAREDWed Jul 01 1992 18:449
2338.8Don't biathlons involve skiing and shooting?DEBUG::SCHULDTAs Incorrect as they come...Thu Jul 02 1992 14:314
    re: biathlons
    
    How do you carry the rifle and skis?  Are there cleats on the bottom of
    the skis for Look pedals?
2338.9SHOP TILL I DROPCSLALL::KIMBALLThu Jul 02 1992 15:2212
    :-) No rifle and skis just running and cycling.
    I tried the Trek and Bianchi last night. Both nice bikes but
    neither felt quite right. The salespeople are putting me on a
    58 cm. Someone impartial told me that being 5'9' I should try
    a 54-55 cm. I'm going to do that today. 
    I like the way the Trek rode but I liked the way the Bianchi fit.
    True science. The more I learn the more I don't know. 
    Someone last night sadi to sit on the bike and get into the crouched
    position. He said that my knees should be the same level as my
    elbows. Also I should just barely be able to see the front axle
    behind (or was it in front of) the handle bar.
    	Reid
2338.10some thoughts on fitSHALOT::ELLISJohn Lee Ellis - assembly requiredThu Jul 02 1992 15:3522
    
    Reid, it's great that you are enthusiastically getting intothis bike
    evaluation.
    
    There are multiple dimensions of bike fit, and many rules-of-thumb for
    fitting you to the bike.  The ones you mention are a couple of them.
    
    The business about the elbow and knee reflect adjustments you can make
    to the stem height and the seat height.  They aren't really inherent
    in the size of the frame or other components (such as stem-extension).
    
    Important measurements include inseam (or its equivalent), tibia
    length, torso length, and elbow-to-hand length.  It's important to get
    the correct frame size (and geometry), but presumably you should be
    able to get the brand you want in the size that's right for you.
    (An obvious statement, but what I'm saying is, if you prefer the
    Trek's (or Fuji's or DiamondBack's, or whatever's) geometry, components, 
    ride, etc., but the frame they have in the shop doesn't fit you, you can 
    order one in that brand that does.
    
    Good luck!
    -john
2338.11 t's worth itCSLALL::KIMBALLThu Jul 09 1992 14:015
    Thank you all for the advice. I Bought a bike. I went with the
    Trek 2300. I just couldn't settle for anything else. I have had 
    such a great time riding it. I'm looking forward to lots of miles and
    a few races.
    Reid
2338.12SHALOT::ELLISJohn Lee Ellis - assembly requiredThu Jul 09 1992 15:234
    
    Good going!  Have a great time with your Trek.
    
    -j