T.R | Title | User | Personal Name | Date | Lines |
---|
1770.1 | i said a bud light | MATE::PJOHNSON | | Wed Oct 24 1990 19:55 | 5 |
| Seems pretty clear to me; The cyclist should have had some type of
lighting if he/she insists on riding in the dark. If you can't see
'em, you can't avoid 'em.
Phil
|
1770.2 | survey says ... | TOOK::R_WOODBURY | get me on flight #505! | Wed Oct 24 1990 20:52 | 8 |
|
The law says the cyclist must have a white light on the bike pointing
forewards and some kind of reflector on the rear (reflector vest,
attached to the bike type, etc.).
Common sense says that cyclist has a death wish!
Roger
|
1770.3 | | BALMER::MUDGETT | He's reading notes again, Mom! | Thu Oct 25 1990 01:15 | 28 |
| Here in Maryland there is a law that says that a cyclist at
night has to have a lite and reflector. So no prob. here you
would have won.
I have some random thoughts that this note generated:
1. I have always had a really healthy respect for auto's. They
always win if there is any conflict. I wish someday we get more
rights to use the roads as auto's but til then we need to be
careful sharing the road with cars.
2. I am amazed at how well some cyclists can be aware of the area
around them. I've got a rear view mirror and constantly look around
but I still don't notice cars etc. Once I went riding with our own
John Ellis while we were riding and gabbing he would move over and
sure enough I'd see a car waaaaaaay back there. I think he could feel
the air molecules being displaced by the car! I probably would have
noticed the car AFTER it ran me over.
3. Its amazing how grumpy some bike riders get when they are on their
bikes. Car drivers have always had this quality its tragic to see
cyclists make jerks out of themselves when they are so relatively
defensless. Here in Maryland a cyclist was killed when he got into
an argument with a driver. I can only imagine how easily this kind of
disaster from happening.
Fred Mudgett
|
1770.4 | Headset doubles as radar? | CIMNET::MJOHNSON | Matt Johnson, DTN 291-7856 | Thu Oct 25 1990 11:31 | 12 |
| >2. I am amazed at how well some cyclists can be aware of the area
>around them. I've got a rear view mirror and constantly look around
>but I still don't notice cars etc. Once I went riding with our own
>John Ellis while we were riding and gabbing he would move over and
>sure enough I'd see a car waaaaaaay back there. I think he could feel
>the air molecules being displaced by the car! I probably would have
>noticed the car AFTER it ran me over.
John Lee,
You've let us in on the drogue chute. Could you also reveal what
trick device you use to sense cars at a distance?
|
1770.5 | He's wrong. | NOVA::FISHER | Oakland swept, so what | Thu Oct 25 1990 11:35 | 6 |
| The cyclist was clearly in the wrong. Whether or not that is
sufficient to absolve you from blame if you are in Massachusetts
is something for the insurance companies to say. (I.e., I think
they have their own set of rules.)
ed
|
1770.6 | plate techtonics | SHALOT::ELLIS | John Lee Ellis - assembly required | Thu Oct 25 1990 16:26 | 11 |
|
> You've let us in on the drogue chute. Could you also reveal what
> trick device you use to sense cars at a distance?
I *could* claim it was Doppler shift of brain-wave emanations,
but it's been shown that operation of a vehicle (motor or otherwise)
doesn't necessarily correlate with the presence of brain waves.
The real answer is plate tectonics... :-)
-john
|
1770.7 | o boy, a new science! | SUSHI::KMACDONALD | IronFish Tamer. | Thu Oct 25 1990 17:30 | 5 |
| > The real answer is plate tectonics... :-)
Presumably, that's LICENSE plate tectonics?
ken
|
1770.8 | plate tectonics explained | SHALOT::ELLIS | John Lee Ellis - assembly required | Thu Oct 25 1990 18:02 | 25 |
1770.9 | his fault, but. | TALLIS::JBELL | Zeno was almost here | Thu Oct 25 1990 20:06 | 15 |
| Gee, you guys can't stay on a subject.
The biker was riding in violation of the law.
But...
In Massachusetts there is a certain minimum coverage by
the insurance company for injuries in an accident, regardless
of who was at fault. (this is according to a BABC pamphlet
regarding what to do in case of a bike accident.)
-Jeff
|
1770.10 | What about this one? | ODDONE::ABLEY_N | NEIL THE YTS YOB!! | Fri Oct 26 1990 09:36 | 17 |
| This actually happened to my brother he was the driver of the car.
It was about this time last here around about 06.00 he was pulling out
of the road on his way to work he had only just past his test so he was
very cautious about what is coming.
Nothing seemed to be coming then all of the sudden BANG the next thing
he sees is a postie rolling across the top of his car.
The postie had no light clothing on or lights and to make it worse he
had a personal stereo pluged into his ears. The damage to the car was
over eight hundred pounds and as it was a push bike he had no way to
claim any money from him without taking him to court, he has got a
writting and signed statment by the postman. All I want to know is, is
it worth him taking him to court?
Any answers grattly appreciated
ABS
|
1770.11 | Hey buddy, how much for that used brain?? | IAMOK::FRERE | Ellas Danzan Solas | Fri Oct 26 1990 12:40 | 14 |
| Re:.10
To take him to court or not probably depends on your cost to do so (not
to mention the probability of winning). But 800 pounds is a lot of
money.
Re: .0
I agree with everybody else that the cyclist is wrong. If contact
would have been made, your insurance may have to cover some (50% at
fault??) damage but all you loose is insurance rating (and some $$).
It's harder for the cyclist to recover 50% of his brain...
Eric
|
1770.12 | Could it be prevented | FSTTOO::HANAUER | Mike... Ice~Cream~to~Bicycle | Fri Oct 26 1990 14:28 | 10 |
| I too agree that the cyclist was wrong; he should have had proper
lighting.
However I often ask myself, rather than looking at who was (would
have been) at fault -- could the situation been PREVENTED.
Is there anyway to have seen this person -- look more carefully,
avoid a blind spot, etc.
~Mike
|