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Title: Bicycling
Notice:Bicycling for Fun
Moderator:JAMIN::WASSER
Created:Mon Apr 14 1986
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:3214
Total number of notes:31946

842.0. "FORMAL COMPLAINTS AGAINST DOGS" by ATSE::DIONNE () Mon Aug 29 1988 21:24

This past Sunday I got chased by 4 dogs all within 4.8 miles.  This
happened on Pepperel Road in Brookline, NH, which then turned into
Brookline Street in Pepperel, MA.  By the end of the ride I was
ready to give up biking and shot the dogs.  I have biked this
road many times and each time it seems a new dog has appeared.  At
one point the dog chased us and the owner was standing right there
yelling he won't bite.  I wasn't worried about his biting I was
worried about hitting him.  But the owner did nothing.
    
I know there are other notes on this topic, however, what I'm
looking for here is other people who have come across these
same dogs.  I am in the process of trying to locate the exact
number of the house and the owner's name so I can file a complaint.
Maybe it will be useless, but if enough people complain perhaps
something can be done.  If you are willing to complain I will
let you know if the town will even accept the complaint.
    
I know in Brookline, NH they enforce the leash law if there are
complaints.  My sister had one neighbor complain about her dog
being in the neighbor's garbage.  As a result the sheriff
came with a restraining order to keep the dog tied up.  Chasing
a bike is a lot more serious than eating someone's garbage.
    
    
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842.1I hate those dogs!!!!!NAC::CAMPBELLTue Aug 30 1988 12:5911
    I've been on that road and chased by those dogs!!  What a pain!!
    They all just want to chase and don't "seem" to want to bite, but
    I don't hang around to find out!  If you get anywhere with the 
    complaint let me know!!!  I'd be glad to file one!!!
    
    There's one dog in particular that's real fast!!!  He lives right
    at the end of the road on the pepperel side.  I saw him chasing
    a car once that must have been doing 40!!  No way I'm gonna out
    sprint him!!!!
    
    Stew
842.2WITNES::MACONEHas anyone seen my Pocket Protector?Tue Aug 30 1988 13:4512
    I also ride that route 2 or 3 times a week.  I haven't had too many
    problems, luckily.  But, as Stew said, that PitBull that lives on
    the end of Brookline Street -- though he's only run after me, I
    don't want to be around to see if he bites.  
    
    I live in Pepperell, but I don't know what the leash laws say. 
    I'd also liek to complain about my neighbors dog who tries to attack
    my cats right on our back porch.
    
    	-Nancy
    
    
842.3CTCADM::ROTHIf you plant ice you'll harvest windTue Aug 30 1988 15:2710
    If you can locate the owner, then definitely file a complaint.

    I had a problem with a dog barking *incessantly* that was owned by people
    in a house behind us, and we were able to force them to keep the dog
    inside.  Myself and another neighbor to the side filed the complaints.

    It will definitely help if multiple cyclists file complaints against
    the same people.

    - Jim
842.4complaint procedureATSE::DIONNEWed Aug 31 1988 21:3135
    I have looked into complaining about these dogs and this is
    what I found.
    
    Pepperell has no leash law, however, according to the dog officer
    the dogs should not be allowed to chase you into the street.  You
    can call and complain and the officer will speak with the owners.
    The dog in Pepperell that always chases me is the gray and brown
    or black dog that lives at 10 Brookline Street (large yellow house).
    The officer is aware of who this dog is, but thought the dog only
    chased along his property and not into the street.  I informed him
    that I usually cross the street when I get to that house but the
    dog follows me. He didn't think there was a problem because I was
    the first to complain.  I think if enough of us complain maybe the
    owners will do something about it (wishful thinking). I warned the
    officer that he may be getting additional calls.  If you would like
    to complain give him a call at 508-433-5019.  You will probably
    get an answering machine.  Leave a message, he will call you back.
    
    Hollis does have a leash law.  You can call the Hollis Police Station
    at 603-465-7637 and file a complaint, which they will then turn
    over to the dog officer.  You will need the address of the dog.
    The lady also said if you could get the number off the dog tag that
    would help (sorry--I'm not getting that close).  I'm not sure exactly
    which house belongs to the dog who chased me in Hollis so I cannot
    file a complaint yet, but I'm keeping my eyes open for the exact
    house.  The dog was a large brown dog who lived on the left hand
    side of the road (if you are coming from Brookline) before you come
    to the duck pond.  So if anyone knows where he lives for sure I
    would appreciate a house number.                   
    
    I appreciate anyone's help in getting these dogs to stay on their
    property.  I would like to continue to ride that road.
    
    
    
842.5Or maybe, this one's still in PepperellWITNES::MACONEHas anyone seen my Pocket Protector?Thu Sep 01 1988 13:269
    The dog in Hollis -- are you talking about the one that lives in
    the house that is right before that broken down house that has a
    deserted hippie school bus in the yard, along with hundreds of used
    tires and other miscellaneous trash?  I don't know what the dogs
    house looks like though.
    
    Or, are you talking about a different dog altogether?
    
    	-Nancy
842.6Dogs, Talk, WaterDFCON1::MITCHELLChet MitchellSun Sep 18 1988 00:3619
    Brookline Road is a tough area for dogs, and a beautiful road to
    ride or race on. I live in Hollis and ride my bike their quite a
    bit. Last year, when the Hollis High School Bicycle Racing Team
    ran a race on that road (last summer), members of the racing team
    approached the owners of these dogs (six of them in all) and asked
    them to tie their dogs up during the race. They all cooperated and
    kept their dogs tied up.
    
    I run a bicycle race in Hollis called the Fall Freedom Ride on that
    same course using Brookline Road. The race is on October 1st. We
    plan to ask for the cooperation of these same dog owners a few days
    before the race and hope to get the same cooperation. 
    
    This doesn't solve the daily problem, however. I don't know what
    the answer is. Perhaps publishing the addressess of the owners and
    talking to the more serious problems (eg pit bull) might help. When
    I ride that street, I ride as fast as I can and when I see dogs,
    I squirt them with water from my water bottle. Dogs hate water and
    it seems to work well.
842.7STAR::TEAGUEI'm not a doctor,but I play one on TV...Mon Sep 19 1988 13:189
Re: .6

Sigh...one might reasonably expect that after repeated requests to keep 
their dogs tied at certain times, it might occur to the owners that 
there is a problem.  Oh well...

.jim

842.8file complaintATSE::DIONNEMon Sep 19 1988 20:358
    If you know the names and addresses of the dogs, it might
    be beneficial to report them to the Hollis Police Department.
    They will take complaints.  Maybe if enough people complain
    something can be done.  Unfortunately, in Pepperell there is
    no leash law.  You can complain to the dog officer and he will
    notify the owners, but what good will it do.
    
    
842.9WRONG TOPIC TITLEWMOIS::C_GIROUARDFri Mar 17 1989 09:258
    This is a "pet" peeve of mine. And I know I'm a little slow on the
    draw here, but shouldn't this topic be titled:
    
    
    
                 FORMAL STUPID DOG OWNER COMPLAINTS
    
    Chip
842.10was it the OWNER or the COMPLAINT that was STUPID?BANZAI::FISHERRdb/VMS DinosaurFri Mar 17 1989 11:505
    How about
    
    	FORMAL COMPLAINTS AGAINST STUPID DOG OWNERS
    
    ed
842.11YEAH, THAT'S THE TICKETWMOIS::C_GIROUARDFri Mar 17 1989 14:342
    Yeah, that's it. Sorry for the confusion. The complaint isn't stupid.
    The dog is expected to be not the human.
842.12another interpretation 8^)NAC::KLASMANFri Mar 17 1989 15:116
< Note 842.9 by WMOIS::C_GIROUARD >
                             -< WRONG TOPIC TITLE >-

>                 FORMAL STUPID DOG OWNER COMPLAINTS

Or was it complaints against FORMAL stupid dog owners, versus INFORMAL owners?
842.13STUPIDITY IS BLINDWMOIS::C_GIROUARDTue Mar 21 1989 09:407
    I guess stupidity is stupidity regardless of its formality ir
    informality, regardless of its color, religion or gender. It's
    just one of those categories that's blind to discrimination.
    
    "PUT THE OWNER TO SLEEP", I always say.
    
    Chip