Conference noted::bicycle

    
    	The only place I know of is between ZK01 and ZK02.  The racks are
    quite nice and seem safe.  However I am not sure about leaving them
    there overnight.  I have seen bikes that have been kept there for weeks
    on end and were not ridden during this time (full of cob webs!).  They
    seemed to be all in one piece.  I suggest talking to security about how
    they feel about this.  They would know if anyone has complained about
    theft in the pass.
    
    don
    

    
    One alternative is to leave the bike in your car....  But how "safe"
    is that if your car has already been broken into?  If you can get
    enough people to complain (nicely) about it perhaps you can get
    some space in that wonderfull wellness center we're always hearing
    about??  If not that how about getting one of the smaller conference
    rooms to be dedicated as a bike room?  What are the alternatives???
    
    If you opt for leaving it in your car don't forget to let some 
    pressure out of the tires first........  Kaaaaaabboooooomm!!!
    
    Stew
    

    	re .2
    
    		I ride during lunch around concord/acton/carlisle/maynard
    etc... and I leave my bike in the back seat of may car. Why do you
    suggest taking some of the pressure out of the tires? 
    		If its for the reason I'm thinking, why not leave a window
    open just a hair?  I have trust in alot of people, and hope nobody
    goes a far as to steal my bike.
    
    				just curious
    				mike

Re: .0

I suspect the bike racks at ZK are just as secure as the lock you use.
They *are* a more contemporary design, and are made specifically with
the Kryptonite-style U-locks in mind.

I've parked mine there (locked) several times, and haven't had any problems.
But never overnight.

Re: .2  

Yeah, I've noticed those bikes that have been there a long time without 
being disturbed.  But I'm not sure that anyone would particularly *want* to
steal *those* bikes! ;-)

.jim

    
    
    	I have also asked facilties why we cannot bring our bikes inside.
    I had a Marinoni built for me and there is no way I'm leaving that
    outside. If I here anything from them I will let you know.
    
    Joe

    
    re .3
    
    	Even with a window open a crack, it still gets pretty hot in
    a car in the summer.  No problem now, but when it hits 90.....
    It's never happened to me but I've heard stories...
    
    Stew
    

I am about to ask security here in SHR whether we can bring our bikes in
our offices. Maybe I'll try a differennt tactic and tell them that my wheels
release and I can store the the bike in a nicew corner of my office with the
wheels off. Has anyone had any luck with this method or are we all fighting
the beurocratic hogwash??? Also our group has a lab downstairs and the bike can
easily be stored in there. Any rules on such equipment in labs. Maybe if I 
convince them that I'm running performance tests on DEC's new bike computer!!

8-) 8-)

mano

    Please share whatever you find.... We're getting answers like:
    1. We won't spend money for a bike rack.
    2. It's against policy.
    3. It's a hazard in case of fire
    
    I definitely get the impression that facilities people like to say
    "no" automatically, and then think of reasons to justify it.

>    I definitely get the impression that facilities people like to say
>    "no" automatically, and then think of reasons to justify it.

	Why ask?

	I thought that one of the goals of this company was to settle all
	issues at the lowest possible level.  So long as you aren't rude and
	leave mud all over the place or park in the hallway, just quietly
	wheel the bike in the side door and into your cubicle.

	It's probably the simplest way to change it into a "we've always done it
	this way" situation.

	-Jeff

Re: .5
Joe - please let me know if you have any luck. Since our bikes are new and
reasonably nice, we have the same concern. The Wellness center seems
like the most appropriate place to me...(maybe if we tell them it's for
a "bicycle aerobics" class?)

Re: .7 - I like the idea of the bike computer... might just work if I
attach one of those computerized trip meters to the bike and point to it as
I stroll through the lobby...

As for leaving it in the car: That's a great idea IF you've got

	1.) a big car
	2.) only ONE bike to transport

Unfortunately, our two touring bikes won't both fit in the trunk (my husband
and I commute together). Due to my past experience with break-ins, I'd be
hesitant to leave one of them in the back seat. (It also seems like a bit
of a waste since we just spent some $$$ on a bike rack...)
Maybe we should have bought a van instead...

For now, I guess the bike rack between ZK1 and ZK2 actually IS the only option.
Since noone seems to be using it for overnight storage (other than the few
bikes out there that don't seem to be worth stealing), we'll take the bikes
home every night and bring them back in the morning. 

Thanks for all your suggestions. If anyone hears of a change in ZK policy,
please post a note here. Anything that translates to more time on the
bike (and less time moving it around) would be helpful.

- Kemlo

    re .7
    
    When I ride my bike to work I lock it to the bike rack by the employee
    entrance.  I did this quite a number of days last summer and had
    no problems.  Right now the rack is up against the building and hence
    doesn't allow many bikes to be locked to it.  Actually, since it
    is of the "old style" it doesn't allow many bikes to be locked to
    it period!  (If you're using U-style locks.)

I always had a bike or two in the back of my vehicle when I was in ZK
-- a Plymouth Voyager.  The bike was in plain sight, too.  Lots of other
stuff stolen from the lots but not my bike.  The thieves took the
valuable stuff: CB's, tape players, redar detectors.  They left my
Guerciotti and Trek 2000 alone.  My Voyager's old CB was stolen in
Manchester last year.  They left the bike alone.

I did usually park close to the building rather than in the spaces nearer
the TARA.

    The rule about bring bicycles into the building does not just exist
    at ZK.  I'm located in Colorado Springs.  At the CXO facilities,
    there are about 3500 employees and we can not bring our bicycles
    into the building.
    
    The bicycle racks are in the motorcycle parking area in the parking
    lot.  This is right in front of the main entrance of CXO3, the Customer
    Support Center.  There are cameras mounted on the building scanning
    the parking lot and still someone had their $$$$ bicycle stolen
    out of the racks last summer.   
    
    Several of us ride to work, so the idea of putting them in the car
    is out.