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Title: Bicycling
Notice:Bicycling for Fun
Moderator:JAMIN::WASSER
Created:Mon Apr 14 1986
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:3214
Total number of notes:31946

3188.0. "1997 Road Racing Information" by TLE::LUCIA (http://asaab.zko.dec.com/~lucia/biography.html) Wed Mar 12 1997 12:27

Every spring, NEBC runs a multi-week new racer introduction on Sunday
mornings from the Bedford MA library.  The topics include paceline
riding, race ettiquette, rules, etc.  It runs from April 6 to May 18
this year, with the last day (May 18) including entry into the Wells Ave
Training Series, run by the BRC (Boston Road Club.)  If you are
interested in racing this year, or just trying it out, I recommend
trying out this series.  Wells Ave is a lot of fun and you will often
find me there if there is not a good race somewhere relatively close.

Yours truly will be helping to run it on April 6 and April 13.  For more
information, questions or directions to the library, send me mail.

More information is also available at:

http://world.std.com/~nebikclb/NebcInfo/nebcevents.html#nebcTrainingSched

Tim

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3188.1TLE::LUCIAhttp://asaab.zko.dec.com/~lucia/biography.htmlWed Mar 12 1997 12:308
The BRC Wells Ave training series starts Sunday, 16-Mar-1997.  It was supposed
to start last week, but mother nature had other plans.

For more details, directions, status phone number, etc., see

http://world.std.com/~nebikclb/RaceEvents/WellsAve97.html

Tim
3188.21997 Racing ScheduleTLE::LUCIAhttp://asaab.zko.dec.com/~lucia/biography.htmlWed Mar 12 1997 12:4722
http://world.std.com/~nebikclb/RaceEvents/RaceEvents.html

Contains the 1997 USCF New England District Race Schedule.  Even if you are not
a racer, you might enjoy coming out to watch.  There are several located nearby
Digital facilities.  In fact, for Marlboro, MRO is the parking and registration
host.

The closest races to the GMA are:

Date              Race
-------------     --------------------------------------------
5/24      Sat     Westfield RR [do we still have a site out there?]
6/22      Sun     Andover Crit 
7/03-06   Th-Sun  Fitchburg Longsjo Classic
7/27      Sun     NEBC Harvard Classic 
8/16      Sat     Marlboro RR
9/06      Sat     Race for the Gate [Nashua]

Most races coincide with town festivals or events and have more to see and do
then the race (what else could you want?) for the family.

Tim
3188.3WFO DOAWMOIS::GIROUARD_CWed Mar 12 1997 14:345
    The Westfield plant is long gone. 
    
    Is the Race For The Gate a crit?
    
    Chip
3188.4TLE::LUCIAhttp://asaab.zko.dec.com/~lucia/biography.htmlWed Mar 12 1997 16:509
I thought WFO was gone.  Is there any plant still out in the Springfield area? 
I grew up in Springfield and remember Digital being in the old Armory.  Used to
go there after school for a program they had.  Used TOPS-20!  Then again, we had
RSTS/E 6B in high school on an 11/45 with serial # 2.

The Race For The Gate is a CRIT.  Details are still TBS.  It is supposedly run
by Team BONK.  Contact is Aaron Bagshaw, 603.880.3007.

Tim
3188.5WMOIS::GIROUARD_CWed Mar 12 1997 16:526
    SPO is gone too, I'm afraid. I don't think there are any manufacturing
    sites left in western Mass.
    
    Thanks for the contact.
    
    Chip
3188.6ill be a spectatorEDSCLU::NICHOLSThu Mar 13 1997 11:2718

Race for the Gate in Downtown Nashua, its still very much in the planning
stages.

HEARSAY ALERT / RUMOR MILL ALARM

The course is (as the plan currently says) a figure 8, part of
it on main street.  I think there are only cat 1-2, and masters fields.
They are trying to make masters entry cheap ($10 i have heard) and draw
some of the teams who are at killington for the 1-2 field.

end hearsay / rumor mill

I have no offical connection with the race, but a friend of mine is
co-course director (ie getting uscf and town ok).

--roger
3188.7Figure-8 Crit Course?RTL::DAHLThu Mar 13 1997 17:429
RE: <<< Note 3188.6 by EDSCLU::NICHOLS >>>

>The [criterium] course is (as the plan currently says) a figure 8....

Golly, I hope that the cross-over point has separate grades for the two routes.
I can't imagine the safety of a level crossing unless the course is long enough
or the field small enough to avoid stretching riders around much of the course
at once (which could lead to collisions at the intersecting point). 
						-- Tom
3188.8See Ya...WMOIS::GIROUARD_CFri Mar 14 1997 08:455
    Generally, race marshals will pull riders who may get lapped.
    
    It's a little embarrassing (from experience).
    
    Chip
3188.9RTL::DAHLFri Mar 14 1997 11:2616
RE: <<< Note 3188.8 by WMOIS::GIROUARD_C >>>

>    Generally, race marshals will pull riders who may get lapped.

Indeed, in the one (and only, thanks very much :-) crit that I raced, the
original field of about 50 was reduced to 25 by the mid-point of the race.

However, even a line of 25 riders snaking single file will stretch quite a
distance. If the figure-8 crossover is in the middle of the course, then a
string of riders stretched over just half of the course will hit itself at the
intersection.

I appreciate that this Nashua race is for experienced riders. Still, I shudder
at the thought of sprinting down the course only to see another rider coming
in fast from the side.
						-- Tom
3188.10WHAM! oops, sorry...WRKSYS::FRANTZDr. AwkwardFri Mar 14 1997 11:394
    I still can't shake the image of figure-8 racing on bicycles.  If you
    T-bine the leader, is that a DNF?
    
    Karl
3188.11ArghWRKSYS::FRANTZDr. AwkwardFri Mar 14 1997 11:415
    Of course for T-bine read T-bone.
    
    How *does* one modify a reply?
    
    Karl
3188.12TLE::LUCIAhttp://asaab.zko.dec.com/~lucia/biography.htmlFri Mar 14 1997 12:5527
From the USCF rule book (actually from the web site), Rule #1 for Road Racing,
in the very first part of the section, on "Courses" says:


3A1. A road course may be from place to place, around a circuit, out and back,
or any combination of these. The course shall not cross itself there must be no
chance that riders may have to cut through other groups of riders. 



Often when you see a figure 8 course listed, it's more of an oval with the
middle pinched in, such that you have both left and right turns, but don't
actually cross.

I can't imagine a permit being issued for such an event, if the course does
cross itself.  How do you pull a breakaway???  Do you pull the entire field?


I too have experienced the pain of being lapped.  It's a double-edged sword. 
You are so beat from trying to stay on, so getting pulled is almost a relief (I
was pulled, I didn't abandon) but then again, who wants to get pulled?  This
year, I'm not going to get pulled!!  My problem last year was those first-year
jitters of taking corners at 25mph in a large group of squirrely riders.  I also
lost a lot of races to the start line, which is the most important part of a
criterium -- to be in the front row for the gun.

Tim
3188.13MPGS::MILLSFri Mar 14 1997 14:206
    Many years ago ('77 and '78 was when I raced it) they had a race at
    Myles Standish park down near Plymouth (Mass) which was on a "dogbone"
    course. That is, it had a two-way main section with one-way loops at
    each end. Effectively, this was a figure eight but without a cross
    over. It was rather weird (and a bit dangerous) to meet people racing
    the opposite direction in the main stretch.
3188.14Loved It!WMOIS::GIROUARD_CFri Mar 14 1997 14:298
    Yeah, I really liked that race. It has been suspended (for some reason)
    the past two years. I heard a rumor it was back on this year, but it's
    not on the schedule.
    
    Remember the wind in your face on the home stretch? Man, some years
    were more than brutal.
    
    Chip
3188.15MPGS::MILLSFri Mar 14 1997 19:132
    Yeah, for me it was the wind created by the main part of the pack
    coming toward me!
3188.16fig 8's are fun, i thinkEDSCLU::NICHOLSTue Mar 18 1997 11:4821
re: figure 8:

Tim's got it right, the two loops dont actually cross, but are 2 'squares'
with a pair of corners 'touching'.  If there are 2 groups 'meeting', both
are making left (or right) turns so they never overlap.  The intersection
is blocked diagonally by haybales or something similar.  We had a couple
courses like this in the midwest (MO,IL,IA,WI).

           r-->-->--7
           |        |
           ^        v
           |        |
           |        L--->-->-7
           L--<--<--7        |
                    |        |
                    ^        v
                    |        |
                    L-<---<--J

--roger
3188.17New racer clinic detailsTLE::LUCIAhttp://asaab.zko.dec.com/~lucia/biography.htmlWed Mar 26 1997 13:176
http://world.std.com/~nebikclb/NebcInfo/NewRacerClinic97.html

has the "syllabus".  Yours truly will be one of the instructors, for 3 of the 6
sessions (I'm racing the other weekends)

Tim