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Title: Bicycling
Notice:Bicycling for Fun
Moderator:JAMIN::WASSER
Created:Mon Apr 14 1986
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:3214
Total number of notes:31946

2845.0. "Road Bikes for Small People? " by PASTA::LAWRENCE () Tue Sep 13 1994 13:42

The number-one daughter is 9 years old, and, like her dad, likes to go fast. She
has been riding a Ross "Mt. Jefferson" a couple of years. This is a down-sized 
mountain bike style with (I think) 20-inch wheels - everything is scaled down
from an adult-sized bike to fit small people. With few exceptions this bicycle
was ridden on roads, not off-road. 

Looking around the bike shops it's apparent that there's something for any size
person as long as they want a mountain bike. Downsized versions of road bikes do
not seem to exist. 

I toyed with the idea of picking up the smallest frame I could find - I've seen
used ones down to 47cm - and building that up. However I think that would still
be too high. Ideally the small frame would be matched with proportionately-sized
wheels. I know 24-inch wheels exist because Terry uses them for front wheels on
their woman-sized bikes. Unfortunately, a frame built for 700c or even 26-inch
wheels will have the brake pivots too far away from the rims if you went down to
a 24-inch wheel. I'm reluctant to get into major frame mods like relocating the
brake pivots. If a Terry front fork could be found, that would take care of the
front, but you'd still have the back that would need to be changed.

For reference, Emily stands 55 inches now - if we got something for next year
she'd be about 57 (4 feet 9 inches). Seat, stem, and crank adjustments should
permit 3 or more years of riding one size frame before she'd graduate to a 
bigger size. I don't mind investing a few hundred for a bike because her sister
(2 years younger) can put more miles on it when Emily's too big for it.

I think it's great that short/young folks can get bicycles to fit them that have
most of the big-bike features (dual hand brakes, derailleurs) that we take for
granted - compared to 30 years ago when you would only find a one-speed with
coaster brakes. Unfortunately, it looks like the only choice is mountain bikes,
which burdens the kids with something unnecessarily heavy and slow - especially
if they ride primarily on roads.

Any ideas? Spare parts/frame of appropriate size? I'd like to hear from you.
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2845.1ELWOOD::DCARRTue Sep 13 1994 15:3830
> Any ideas? Spare parts/frame of appropriate size? I'd like to hear from you.


    My 14 year old daughter (Linda) is 4'9", her 10 year old sister (Ginny)
    is slightly shorter. Last year when we looked for a bike to replace 
    Linda's 20" 5-speed, it was tough finding a bike that was small enough 
    for her. We wound up at Buchika's in Salem, NH, and purchased a girl's
    model named the Ground Force by Univega. 24" wheels, small frame (don't 
    recall the size offhand, though I can look it up), all Shimano components. 
    The brake levers have a nice curve to them and fit her small hands, plus
    they're adjustable (distance between lever and handlebar). Icing on
    the cake: its purple. :-)

    This bike is not "unnecessarily heavy and slow" :-), with 18 speeds
    (index shifters), she moves along quite well. We liked the bike so
    much, we purchased a 94 model for Ginny. The 94 model has some slight
    differences; major one being the addition of bar ends. Univega also
    make a Ground Force-S; I believe that model has front shocks. Price
    for the Ground Force was $250 for each bike (Ginny's was bought this 
    year at Idle Times Bike Shop in Eastham on the Cape).

    Although you specified road bike only, your daughter might like the
    Ground Force. We're now a 3 Univega family. Dad was having difficulty
    keeping up with daughters #2 & #3 on their Univegas, so I bought myself
    a Univega as well. :-)  Not sure if Univega builds road bikes,
    I've only seen their mountain bikes at these two shops. Other noters
    may know or you might want to call Buchika's and ask.

    -Dom
2845.2Another possibility.LUDWIG::ASMITHTue Sep 13 1994 17:005
    Re 0.
    
         If the road bike effort fails you may want to just replace the
    knobby tires on a mountain bike with smoother ones.  The setup should
    be plenty fast for your child.
2845.3WMOIS::GIROUARD_CTue Sep 13 1994 18:086
    <- Also (while tube angles will be different) you can go with
       drop bars, racing saddle, a more traditional shifting set-
       up... Sorta create a pseudo-road/MTB machine. Might prove to
       be a little expensive however.
    
       Chip
2845.4Cannondale compactVMSNET::R_OLSENRon OlsenWed Sep 14 1994 17:108
    Check out Cannondale's "Mid season catalog" for 1994. They have a new
    2.8 frameset called the "compact" frameset. It comes in smaller sizes,
    I think the biggest framesize was a 55 or so, an is build with shorter
    small cyclists in mind (I think...). 
    
    FYI
    
    Ron