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Title: Bicycling
Notice:Bicycling for Fun
Moderator:JAMIN::WASSER
Created:Mon Apr 14 1986
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2750.0. "Two Person Team Time Trial - May 8" by ZEKE::MORIARTY () Tue Apr 12 1994 03:28

                    Mother's Day 2 Person Team Time Trial
                            Sunday, May 8, 1994
                           Hollis, New Hampshire

Sponsored by: Team Body Kneads Janewear/New England Women's Cycling Club, Inc.

				           PRIZES                           min
Categories		TEAM Entry Fee      1st        2nd           3rd   value
_______________________________________  _________________________________ 
USCF Mothers*  all cats	     $24	   $$$cash  Great Mdse   Good Mdse  $110
USCF Women     all cats      $24            $$cash   for both     for both    90
USCF Mixed     all cats      $24            $$cash     team         team      90
USCF Men       all cats      $24             $cash    members      members    70
_______________________________________  _________________________________
Public Mothers*              $20                        medals
Public Women                 $20                        medals
Public Mixed                 $20                        medals
Public Men                   $20                        medals
Public Tandems               $20                        medals
_______________________________________  _________________________________
 * Two women, at least one is a mother(birth,adoptive,step,expectant,or grand!)

Prize money is structured to encourage teams with mothers, and to encourage men 
to race as a mixed team

Start Time: 10:00am (USCF men start first, other categories immediately follow)

Start Loc:  Puritan Press, Route 111, Hollis, NH. Parking available at start

            Distance:  all categories - 1 loop - approx. 10 miles
 
     Course: Route 111 south to Pepperell, Massachusetts, North on Route 122
      to Hollis Center, south on Depot Road to Rt 111, right to start/finish.

Entry Fees: Add $6 per team race day.  Entry fees include USCF insurance 
surcharges for each team member, and a $2 per team contribution to The Ryka Rose
Foundation, a not-for-profit organization created to help end violence against 
women.

		Standard release required for each team member.
                 Identify your teammate on the release form.
             Sorry, USCF rules prohibit a Public racer and a USCF racer 
                         from combining to form a team. 

Public racer entries participate in a post-race raffle for great merchandise!

Mail standard release for each team member to Team Body Kneads Janewear, 
88 North Broadway, Salem, NH, 03079. Tel: (603)894-6689.  Entries received after
May 1, add $6 per team.

Checks payable to:  New England Women's Cycling Club
USCF Permit Pending   
Rain or Shine

Directions: New Hampshire Route 3 Everett Turnpike to Exit 5 West (Route 111).
            4 miles to start (just prior to MA/NH border)


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2750.1:-)WMOIS::GIROUARD_CThu Apr 28 1994 12:5512
     Anyone doing this?
    
     Justin Crocker and I have reached a contractual agreement (based on
     some detailed prerequisite criteria - his) that we will team up and
     ride the USCF event.
    
     There are rumors that highly concentrated levels of titanium will
     be in the immediate area. Please take all necessary precautions! 
    
                                   :-)
    
     Chip
2750.2I'll be there tooZEKE::MORIARTYThu Apr 28 1994 14:5422
    I am working registration at this event, and plan to do it too.
    (On Chip's former TT bike even!  - with only a saddle height 
     change, you can even borrow it, Chip!)
    
    We've got some great merchandise prizes.  Saddles, clothes, tee-shirts,
    gift vertificates, athletic shoes, good sun glasses, and of course
    Janeware. 
    
    There is a $5 discount (unadvertised) for people who want to do the
    event twice.  We saw that some USCF men wanted to go hard with another
    USCF man partner first, then go later with a woman partner. This is
    fine, and we'll give you as big a rest time as we can accommodate.
    
    If anyone is going to be a spectator and would like to volunteer, we
    can still use a couple more marshalls, and one more "holder" at the
    starting line.
    
    The 2 person Time Trial is an uncommon event.  We've had some calls
    from tri-athlete types who were surprised to learn they can legally
    draft off their partner in this event!
    
    Gerri
2750.3NOVA::FISHERTay-unned, rey-usted, rey-adyThu Apr 28 1994 15:233
    just as long as they know it's only their partner and no other duos...
    
    ed
2750.4WMOIS::GIROUARD_CThu Apr 28 1994 15:338
     Hi Gerri... See you up there! I read up on the USCF rules for
     TT partners but they weren't very detailed. I've never done a
     sacntioned TT (team or individual). Will they be taking the last 
     partner's time (that crosses the line)?
    
     Does it look like a large field is developing for the event? 
    
     Looking forward to it!
2750.5Oh...the pain...USCTR1::VINCENTThu Apr 28 1994 16:471
    I'll be there....not racing shape yet, but what the heck......
2750.6 ZEKE::MORIARTYThu Apr 28 1994 17:0214
    Yes,  The second person's time is the one that stops the clock, but
    they SHOULD be right behind the wheel of the first!  The idea is to 
    get both partners to cross the finish line as fast as possbile.
    
    We actually had to have the district USCF rep call Colorado to get a 
    clarification on the USCF and Public rule for a TT.  We would have 
    preferred to have USCF and Public racers be able to form a team, since 
    many licensed men would have ridden with unlicensed partners.  (CAT 5 men 
    can still choose between the USCF and Public category, as is normal.)  
    Our team is considering asking for a rule change on this for Time Trials.
    
    We have not received a lot of pre-entries, so your chances are going
    home with a prize are very good!
    
2750.7We May Be There, TooNEMAIL::BUXTONThu Apr 28 1994 17:3111
    re: .2 
    
    "tri-athlete types", "legally (as opposed to illegally?) draft"????   I 
    think I'm offended...  ;-)
    
    My wife and I may well be there as a team......if she'll have me.  
    She's riding well beyond early season form (and me...)
    
    What better way to spend Mother's Day?
    
    ricb                                                  
2750.8Fastest nth manHERON::CODGER::HEMMINGSLanterne RougeFri Apr 29 1994 08:294
re .6
The idea in a TTT is to get the counting rider across the line as quick as 
possible, therefore the n counting riders should be in line abreast across 
the line.  Nit-picking, but let's do it right!
2750.9WMOIS::GIROUARD_CFri Apr 29 1994 10:2622
     Pete, who is? I'm not anywhere near my July/August condition, but
     I am ahead of last year... We'll all be in pain. Heck, it's even
     painful in July and August! :-)
    
     Gerri, thanks. I thought so, but it's nice to have the facts. I'm
     planning on registering when I get there... Will you let me touch
     the C Dale Sunday? :-)
    
     I'm assuming Peggy (Buxton) is your wife? Say hello to her for me.
     I'll be there on Mother's Day... She did a couple of our Rte 140
     TT's last year.
    
     And, the coward that I am, I finally told my wife I was going to do
     this TT... Well, she's a pretty good sport. Not that she she was
     bubbling with support, but I did promise to foot a meal in the
     afternoon. Of course, I invited her, but she's not a cyclist and
     immediately retorted with, "Why? So I can stand around for an hour 
     afterwards and listen to all of you relive the race?" 
    
     PEGGED OR WHAT?!! :-)
    
     Chip
2750.10KIRKTN::GGOODMANLoonaticFri Apr 29 1994 11:478
>     Pete, who is? I'm not anywhere near my July/August condition, but
>     I am ahead of last year... We'll all be in pain. Heck, it's even
>     painful in July and August! :-)
 
    First rule of cycling. It never gets easier, just faster...
    Hopefully...  :*)
       
    Graham.
2750.11Ti must melt in the rain...USCTR1::VINCENTMon May 09 1994 16:106
    Well....I was there, but all the big guns stayed at home.
     
      Probably didn't want to get their techoweenieexotica big buck machines
    wet....  It was fun, even in the rain.  Hope they run it again next
    year (another one this year???), the course is great and it was very well
    organized.        
2750.12WMOIS::GIROUARD_CMon May 09 1994 16:478
     I stayed home. I figured a 30 minute ride to the race, a 22 minute 
     race, 30 minute ride back home, $24.00 dollar entry fee, and 2.5
     3.0 hour machine clean-up. The figures just weren't working for
     Justin or me...
    
     How'd you do? Times were...?
    
     Chip
2750.13DELNI::CRITZScott Critz, LKG2/1, Pole V3Mon May 09 1994 16:507
    	After church and our Mother's Day meal, it was 2 PM when we
    	drove by Puritan Press. No one there. I didn't know if the
    	thing was cancelled or we were just too late to see anything.
    
    	Conditions couldn't have been good.
    
    	Scott
2750.14NOVA::FISHERTay-unned, rey-usted, rey-adyTue May 10 1994 10:173
    22 minutes?  You'd a won it.
    
    ed
2750.15WMOIS::GIROUARD_CTue May 10 1994 11:371
     Justin and me wer figgerin' on it!  :-)
2750.16ResultsZEKE::MORIARTYTue May 10 1994 20:1733
	Team Body Kneads Janeware/New England Women's Cycling Club 
        	         2 Person Team Time Trial 
                	         Results


Top Ten Teams Overall
  
 1.   E. Marro/D. Foley              24:02       1st - USCF Men
      Missing Link Bike Club

 2.   P. Vincent/M. Young            25:59       1st - Public Men

 3.   G. North/K. Ayotte             26:06       1st - USCF Mixed
      Team Bonk

 4.   F. Castano/B. Willis           26:21       2nd - USCF Mixed
      Boston Road Club

 5.   D. Chin/S. Zimmerman           26:53       3rd - USCF Mixed
      Nashbar/Boston Road Club

 6.   G. Pelleter/J. Walker          27:09       2nd - Public Men

 7.   M. Ballou/J. Hayes             27:11       1st - Tandem
      MLBC/Body Kneads Janeware

 8.   D. Doherty/M. Doherty          28:12       1st - Public Mixed
 
 9.   E. Marro/P. Tedesco            28:14       4th - USCF Mixed
      Missing Link/NEBC

 10.  R. Evans/ J. Clark             28:16       2nd - Public Mixed
              
2750.17PAKORA::GGOODMANLoonaticWed May 11 1994 06:228
    
    Who races tandems in the US. Are they generally poorer riders or are
    they the better amateurs looking for a bit of fun, or even good
    training. Only ask because that tandem time is *very* slow. Even with
    average ability, a tandem should be roughly equal to the overall
    winning time.
    
    Graham.
2750.18NOVA::FISHERTay-unned, rey-usted, rey-adyWed May 11 1994 10:584
    I think they were not regular racers, just entered because twosomes
    were "the thing."
    
    ed
2750.19PAKORA::GGOODMANLoonaticWed May 11 1994 11:064
    Must admit, I'm surprised that a tandem was allowed. It wouldn't be
    under RTTC rules. It would have to be 2 seperate bikes.
    
    Graham.
2750.20...Now that's motoring...MOVIES::WIDDOWSONBytes die youngWed May 11 1994 11:431
    two tandems ?
2750.21PAKORA::GGOODMANLoonaticWed May 11 1994 11:516
>    two tandems ?
>     -< ...Now that's motoring... >-
    
    Not at 27 minutes for a 10, it's not...  :*)
    
    Graham.
2750.22WMOIS::GIROUARD_CWed May 11 1994 12:138
     Actually, that time's snail-ly... :-)
    
     I did the Rte. 140 TT (12 miles) with Norm Flye (remember him?).
     We did a low 27:? - The course record for this (regular bike)
     is 26:55 (Scott Kinsman) and Steve Swart (Coors Light) did that
     course in 24:something!!!
    
     Chip
2750.23Mt. Bike TandemZEKE::MORIARTYWed May 11 1994 14:2119
    The Tandem was a "fun" race really.  We were interested in seeing what 
    kind of response it would get.
    
    The pair who entered were Jane Hayes, an expert level mountain biker,
    and creater of "Janeware" a catalog clothing company, and Mike Ballou,
    the 1993 New Hampshire Expert Mountain Bike champion.  
    
    They were on a mountain bike tandem, not a road tandem.  Mike was
    hanging on the back as best he could.  His hand was in a cast because
    he broke it last weekend in a mountain bike race, and this made it
    difficult for him to hang onto the handlebar.  Mike had planned to do
    the race with a partner from his road team (he is also a Cat 3 roadie)
    but the broken hand forced him into the tandem option.
    
    They were also under no pressure to win, being the only tandem to show
    up in the rain!  So with this background information, their time starts
    to look pretty respectable!
    
    Gerri
2750.24LASSIE::ZIELONKOWed May 18 1994 18:382
Was this the same course as the Nashua Club TT they ran until the year before
last?
2750.25yes, butZEKE::MORIARTYWed May 18 1994 20:533
    Essentially yes, but we opted to turn down Merrill Lane to aviod
    the parked cars in Hollis Center due to Sunday morning church service.
    This shortened the course a little. 
2750.26NOVA::FISHERnow |a|n|a|l|o|g|Thu May 11 1995 09:558
>><<< Note 2750.22 by WMOIS::GIROUARD_C >>>
>>
>>     Actually, that time's snail-ly... :-)
    
Hey Chip, now's your chance to show your stuff, they're doing it
    again this year.  Of course, you need a partner.  :-)
    
    ed
2750.27WMOIS::GIROUARD_CThu May 11 1995 10:147
    Justin and I were going to partner up for last year's (since we ride
    a TT about the same) but the weather wimped us out. 
    
    I'm passing this tear. I did my firts TT last Tuesday so I'm not
    exactly in the swing! :-)
    
    Chip
2750.28NOVA::FISHERnow |a|n|a|l|o|g|Thu May 11 1995 11:334
    ok, but I think folks who winp out, or find other excuses :-),
    shouldn't say things about other folks times.  BUt that's just me.  :-)
    
    ed
2750.29EDWIN::HARVELLThu May 11 1995 12:576
If your not going to ride it please think about marshalling the event.  We
really need people to work it or there will be no event at all.  See my other 
note for the contact person if you can work the event.

Thanks,
Scott
2750.30WMOIS::GIROUARD_CThu May 11 1995 12:573
    -1 or folks who may w-i-M-p out :-)
    
       Chip
2750.31WMOIS::GIROUARD_CThu May 11 1995 12:583
    re; previous note - was for Ed's .28 entry.
    
    Chip